[Imc-cleveland] Mini-Meetings

[jesse]

thanx p; this sounds really cool.  i agree with
everything.  sorry if i came across as critical. 
thank you for taking the time and initiative to do
this.    

--- p-indy216 at riseup.net wrote:

> Thanks jesse,
> 
> In response to your concerns about the
> mini-meeetings - Yes, yes, and yes
> i a understand and agree with them.
> 
> My intentions were to have informal meetings to
> bring people up to speed
> on c-imc, answer questions, FYI etc. without losing
> any momentum. Since
> its been hard to get together for our "official"
> monthly meetings i wanted
> to get the ball rolling as much as possible. Also,
> for me it can be
> awkward to have new folks come to our monthly
> meetings cuz we end up
> spending half the  meeting introducing ourselves and
> doing the history of
> the imc and the other half discussing whatever it is
> we needed to discuss.
> 
> Most of these "mysterious new people" either have
> been interested in
> getting involved with indymedia for awhile but
> couldnt because of
> scheduling conflicts or have experience working with
> imc's in other
> cities. I realize i/we have been going a crappy job
> of giving advance
> notice of these events, and it may seem not
> transparent. soory that my
> fault.
> 
> anyway we should try to get a better location and
> firm time. on a positive
> note, thereve been new ideas suggested and a few
> re-encarnations of old
> ideas that have gotten all crusted and burnt on out
> collective back
> burners.
> it would have been nice to have some of the other
> collective members there
> too but as yet it hasnt happened.
> 
> i did invite the newbies to help out on the radio
> show and hopefully there
> will be more collective involvemet in that in the
> future.
> 
> so do we want try to meet this week, Sunday?
> 
> !p
> 
> 
> 
> > I'm glad to hear that other people are getting
> > involved in cleveimc, and it sounds like people
> are
> > having some good ideas.  I have a couple concerns
> > about the "mini-meetings" that we've been having,
> > however, mostly regarding procedural issues that
> they
> > raise.
> >
> > 1.  I'm under the impression that these are not
> > "official" cleveimc meetings, but instead some
> people
> > getting together with Patrick to discuss ideas. 
> I'm
> > not saying I disagree with any of the ideas being
> > discussed at the "mini-meeting", but I don't think
> any
> > website decisions should be made outside the
> official
> > monthly meetings.
> >
> > 2.  I do not think there should be any "official"
> > cleveimc meetings unless they are discussed and
> > established at a monthly meeting, or at least
> receive
> > consensus over the listserve.  I have reservations
> > with having meetings at someone's house, short
> notice
> > being given for meetings, and established
> collective
> > members being unavailable for the meetings.  I was
> > under the impression we were rescheduling the
> monthly
> > meetings for Sunday afternoons instead of
> evenings,
> > and were looking into Talkies, Arabica, or a
> similar
> > location (not someone's house).
> >
> > 3.  We established a policy several meetings ago
> that
> > someone must attend at least 3 "official" meetings
> to
> > be considered a collective member.  There were
> many
> > reasons for this.  No offense towards new people
> > getting involved, which I encourage, but I don't
> think
> > the mini-meetings should count towards the 3
> required
> > for collective membership.
> >
> > Again, I am happy and excited that more people
> want to
> > get involved, but I don't think we should proceed
> in a
> > manner that disrespects people in the collective
> or
> > established practices/policy.
> >
> >
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > "In the expansion of the great Western empires,
> profit and hope of further
> > profit were obviously tremendously important...But
> there is more than that
> > to imperialism and colonialism.  There was a
> commitment to them over and
> > above profit, a commitment in constant circulation
> and recirculation,
> > which, on the one hand, allowed decent men and
> women to accept the notion
> > that distant territories and their native peoples
> should be subjugated,
> > and, on the other, replenished metropolitan
> energies so that these decent
> > people could think of the imperium as a
> protracted, almost metaphysical
> > obligation to rule sobordinate, inferior, or less
> advanced peoples."
> >
> > ~Edward Said, 1993
> >
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> 
> 


jesse

"In the expansion of the great Western empires, profit and hope of further profit were obviously tremendously important...But there is more than that to imperialism and colonialism.  There was a commitment to them over and above profit, a commitment in constant circulation and recirculation, which, on the one hand, allowed decent men and women to accept the notion that distant territories and their native peoples should be subjugated, and, on the other, replenished metropolitan energies so that these decent people could think of the imperium as a protracted, almost metaphysical obligation to rule sobordinate, inferior, or less advanced peoples."

~Edward Said, 1993

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