[imc-cms] Comments on process and the 3 short listed CMS'

[Txopi]

Max-(e)k idatzi zuen:
> Boud,
>
>>> Similarly...  I have been following this process since being at the
>>> techmeet in Sao Paolo and really hope people are allowed to move
>>> forward with this now without lots of blocks being put in their way.
>>
>> Is trying to be accurate and self-consistent in describing our
>> processes "blocking"?
>
> You consider it trying to be accurate and self-consistent, others
> consider it differently. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learnt here.
>
>>> From what I can tell no one seems to be
>>> looking to create THE indy cms but spurn a variety (but not too many)
>>
>> i don't know if it's anyone's *intention* to create "THE indy cms",

Do you really don't know? After reading the examples you have given, it is
clear for me that you are trying to put out of context the texts you
quote. I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not, but you have
to understand that nobody but you understand that. It is obvious (almost
for me) that you are trying to catch ghosts.

>> and it's true that it has been said several times in irc and/or this
>> mailing list that the favoured CMS won't be forced onto any existing
>> IMCs.  However, these statements were made and recorded e.g. in irc
>> logs or long mailing list threads.
>>
>> Key wiki summary pages give a different impression.

I think that your impression is wrong and Zapata have give to you the
obvious reasons of that: the nature itself of Indymedia. ¿Do you
understand this network? If you do, you shouldn't be so mistrusted.

>> and it's true that it has been said several times in irc and/or this
>> mailing list that the favoured CMS won't be forced onto any existing
>> IMCs.  However, these statements were made and recorded e.g. in irc
>> logs or long mailing list threads.
>
>>> why don't we look for an existing open source CMS
>>
>> "an" = just one
>>
>>> We will need to look for a suitable CMS
>>
>> "a" = just one
>>
>>> Once the CMS has been chosen
>>
>> "the CMS"  = definitely just one
>>
>>> so that all indymedia sites can conveniently switch to the new CMS.
>>
>> "all indymedia sites"
>>
>> "the new CMS" = definitely just one
>
> Since this was my text, perhaps I should be the one interpreting it.
>
> Let's start from the observation that forcing anything on all IMCs is
> a ludicrous concept: every IMC is autonomous. The average IMCista I
> know doesn't respond well to being forced to do anything.

I agree this 100%. I start to think that we are wasting time because you
continue making accusations that can make people feel irritated and
simultaneously you don't say nothing constructive (like accepting my
proposal or many other things you could do).

Txopi.