[Imc-communication] roll call

[deva]

This process is natural and right. If a person were to ask to move into 
a community house or be part of a video project or whatever, they would 
make their request, have some sort of interview, and then the current 
people would discuss that person, asking honest questions about their 
reliability, goals, interests, skills and so on. The difference here is 
that those discussions are available to the person making application 
whereas in most cases they are not.

Every human being and human project asks such questions, feels such 
concerns. This is how life works.

This is also why there is value in private conversation not available 
to all. But if it is going to be available to all, there should be no 
expectation for every post to be nice and welcoming.

and yes, as mp wrote, human interactions over the internet are chaotic 
and discussion is not in linear time as people read and respond on 
different time frames.

regards,
deva


On Aug 11, 2005, at 8:14 AM, mp wrote:

> hi,
>
> On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 08:58 -0400, Toban wrote:
>> I believe in Indymedia, but you people can be very unwelcoming at 
>> times.
>
> He may very well be right that there is need to better deal with
> "others", but I hope that Toban understands that this "unwelcomingness"
> is related to working on a project that is under constant repression by
> the state(s), attack by right wing arseholes and so on..... It is a
> difficult balance.......especially without face-to-face contact and
> connections it can be very hard to feel what is going on, who is who 
> and
> so on - and of course the distant nature of emails also makes it both
> easier to be rude and unwelcoming and to misunderstand protection of 
> the
> protect/experiment as if it was unwelcomingness....
>
> I am sure that everyone is happy to welcome Toban on this list once he
> gets together with a bunch of mates and fellow students to kick off
> london/ontario IMC.... meanwhile, I hope that Toban will share his
> thoughts, work, and research with
> Imc-research mailing list
> Imc-research at lists.indymedia.org
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-research
>
> ciao,
> mp (trying to be happy and friendly!)
>
> :)
>
Hi all,

I'd like to withdraw my request to join the list.

If I'd known that I'd be publicly judged like this, I wouldn't have 
tried in the first place.  Anna, I wish you would have asked me before 
starting this.  I find it very unfair that people are discussing me on 
a list that I'm not supposed to be able to post to.

Basically, I just wanted to respond to the statement about me 
"spamming," and then I figured I'd hang around, as I intend to get 
involved in Indymedia.

I believe in Indymedia, but you people can be very unwelcoming at times.

And, by the way, this research project of mine is nearly complete.  
Aside from wrapping up a few interviews, I only have writing to do.

Toban
>