[Imc-communication] Re: [IMC-Process] Armenia [en][es]

[andrés]

[en] This surely belongs in communication, not in process? I will post 
to communication now...
[es] Por cierto, esto debe estar en comunicación, y no en proceso, 
¿verdad? Ahora me dirigo a comunicación...

[en] So far I stand corrected, I've looked into it, and I see a 
borderline about an issue which is of curse subcontinentally 
(subliminally) eurocentric (and technocentric) in the first place.

In any case, we here always understood that it would always be up to 
local collectives to decide where on the 'indymedia map' they would like 
to place themselves. Enough centralism, please. Let IMC-Armenia decide.

[es] Por el momento me quedo corregido. He investigado, y lo que veo es 
una frontera, en relación con un asunto subcontinental (subliminal) de 
entrada eurocentrico (y tecnocéntrico).

De todas formas, aquí siempre habiamos entendido que fuera asunto de los 
colectivos locales tomar semejantes decisiones, como donde 'situarse' en 
el 'mapa' de indymedia. Basta de centralismos, por favor. Que decide 
IMC-Armenia y punto.

-- 
andrés
imc canarias (a regañadientes y en áfrica por cojones)

maria montania dijo el 29/12/2005 10:08:
 >
 > As far as I know Armenia is in Asia
 >
 > Adela
 > Imc Barcelona

Daniel P dijo el 28/12/2005 19:38:
 > This could be perceived as splitting hairs, but as an Armenian, I
 > *strongly* object to that.  The Caucasus countries themselves are not
 > part of the European subcontinent: they are part of the Asian continent.
 > Wikipedia, for what it's worth, agrees with me:
 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus
 >
 > The same article does mention, correctly, that many view the region as
 > "culturally" identified with Europe.  In my view, the view that Armenia
 > is part of Europe is a load of bullshit that's advanced by those who
 > think pandering to a European, or White, identity will advance their own
 > position in the world.
 >
 > To classify Armenia as part of Europe and not Iran, Azerbaijan, or
 > Georgia (neighboring countries of Armenia, in addition to Eastern
 > Turkey), then we have developed a classification that resembles the
 > preferences of some towards white skin, and not geography.
 >
 > In these times, it seems that Europe is trying to grow it's borders (all
 > of Turkey, Armenia, Israel) in the same way that gentrifing
 > neighborhoods here in Pittsburgh tend to "grow" and consume poorer
 > neighborhoods and neighborhoods of color.  Just as with gentrification,
 > not everyone is fine with this process of European expansion and the
 > inherent undertones of European dominance.
 >
 > Daniel P
 > Pittsburgh Indymedia Volunteer

andrés dijo el 26/12/2005 20:39:
 > IMHO, Armenia is definitely in Europe.
 >

-- 
andrés


Arthem Chapeye dijo el 25/12/2005 12:52:
 > Armenia IS Europe! Geographically (from scientific point of view), as
 > well as geopolitically.
 >
 > On 12/23/05, *mark burdett* < mark at indymedia.org
 > <mailto:mark at indymedia.org>> wrote:
 >
 >     Hi.
 >     I am forwarding this to imc-process for consideration:
 >     3 proposals for the cities list.
 >
 >     re: 1) Is Armenia europe or southwest asia?
 >     ¿Esta Armenia Europa o sudoeste Asia?
 >
 >     re: 2) Presumably east asia would be the preferred category..
 >     Probablemente Asia del este seria la categoría preferida..
 >
 >     re: 3) Is this approved by imc-process?
 >     ¿Esta esto aprobado por imc-process?
 >
 >     --mark B.
 >
 >     On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:39:54 +0200, Mo wrote:
 >      > hello all
 >      > i'm sending for some edits for http://www.indymedia.org/cities.inc
 >      >
 >      > 1- armenia to be moved to EUROPE
 >      > 2- jakarta to be moved to EAST ASIA -thus cancelling ASIA
 >      > 3- palestine is down; it can link to http://www.imemc.org
 >      >
 >      > keep it up!
 >      > mo - from beirut
 >      >
 >      >
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