[Imc-communication] Imc-belgium block of german RENEWED PROPOSAL (Belgium-Case)
dannyp at indypgh.org
Tue Jun 7 22:56:08 PDT 2005
(Opinions contained here are my own)
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, han at indymedia.be wrote:
> We don't think taking away the url of an existing working IMC collective
> is a good idea. IMC is a diverse network. In the very small space of
> Belgium there are several views on what indymedia can or should be.
[snip summary and reasons for block]
Speaking strictly in terms of process, I think we should note IMC
Belgium's concerns- and any IMC is free to reiterate them as a block- but
we should not treat it as a block for the proposal that was scheduled to
go into effect on the 7th of June (yesterday).
In other words, I do believe this issue, on a global level, needs to be
treated as "consensus minus Belgian IMCs" strictly because the fact that
this conflict has not been solved at the local level and has been brought
to the global level necessitates that we do so.
If we are to come up with a proposal here and require full consensus of
IMCs (including Belgian IMCs) then that would *require* the Belgian IMCs
to both agree with a solution, and if that were the case, the involvement
of global process is absurd. Blocks are a part of consensus process
because they enable us to make sure that all of the participants are well
aware of whether a full consensus exists. We must be careful about moving
forward regarding a block, but we must do so. We have reached consensus
minus Belgium, and I feel that is the best we can ever do as a global
network regarding any inter-IMC conflict.
In other words, if we are to believe that Belgium is able to block
proposals regarding a mediated and thought out solution to the conflict,
then we are believing that the global Indymedia network should not be
involved, at all, in this conflict. At the end of the day, however, we
(the network) are involved- the DNS for .indymedia.org and the maintenance
of the main cities means the global network *are* involved in this
conflict, and the global network *cannot* remain neutral.
We must therefore disregard the Belgian block and implement the proposal
as designed. I believe that the tech working group should implement the
DNS change. I am also open to suggestions for the exact wording of the
neutral page, which my local IMC has volunteered to host.
belgium.indymedia.org should redirect towards a neutral page per the UKIMC
proposal. I will offer any technical assistance needed to see that this
proposal be implemented.
Pittsburgh IMC Volunteer
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