[Imc-communication] NEW-IMC and collaboration of autonomous IMCs

[melpomene]

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 03:20, Alster wrote:

> Ah, ok, so you followed the Belgium conflict.
> OK, here's a tough one:
> How can a group of individual and autonomous IMCs make "protocols for
> dispute facilitation" without having "decision making processes" first?

Like all other things are implemented: through consensus. That is how
all decisions are made. What I mean is that new-imc (or other global
lists of info exchange) should not make decisions for/over others, but
global lists could/can function as working groups to "decide" what kind
of protocols would be required for certain kinds of disputes, such as
the current disaffiliation proposal based on "undesirable political
forms" of a particular IMC.

However, I am not at all sure that this is a global matter to "decide" -
what is there to decide when there has been no due process, no
discussion about process, protocol and so on? I think it more likely
that global level of Indymedia network can help, facilitate and provide
resources for, first, local IMC in Belgium to sort their own dispute.
Secondly, if that is not working, then it is probably a matter to be
resolved on a regional level.... there is a long way to the top, or
there are many ways in which things can be attempted non-centrally,
non-globally before we have to talk about global decisions making over
others..... but clearly there should be some work to define structures,
protocols for dispute facilitation done on global level - but again - i
think that we are talking about guidelines - like the PoU - since local
sensitivities and culture etc. will have quite some relevance to how
disputes are approached.... the last thing any dispute needs is some
detached global body making decisions - then we would be better off with
the initial problems, imo

Perhaps we are in agreement, perhaps not, I am not sure. My point is
only that the idea of decisions being made for others/on behalf of
others on a global level sounds wrong to me - but the idea that disputes
can be facilitated on a federate, global level is something else ... but
let us try local and regional first....m...