[Imc-communication] list of subscribers [PROPOSED discussion timeframe: 3 days]

andrés apb at swissmail.org
Fri May 6 16:21:18 PDT 2005


...But,

1). what method to you propose for making the list of subscribers 
available to subscribers (but not to the whole world?); and

2). what data do you propose the list should contain?

mark burdett dijo el 07/05/2005 0:09:
> If no one expresses a concern about this change in 
> three days, I think we could consider it decided that 
> the list admins (dri at indymedia.org, anna at 
> mail.nadir.org, remi.d at mezimail.com, apb at 
> swissmail.org, wowi at grepgrrl.org, chiapas at 
> riseup.net) should make the roster available to 
> subscribers.
> 
> normally decisions should have a longer discussion 
> timeframe but this seems like a relatively trivial 
> matter..
> 
> --mark B.
> 
> On Sat, 07 May 2005 00:01:08 +0100, andrés wrote:
> 
>>sheri at speakeasy.org dijo el 06/05/2005 0:12:
>>
>>>hi,
>>>is it possible that the list of subscribers could be available to list members and not just to list admins?
>>
>>Techs would have to answer this question, as such, sheri. The list of 
>>subscribers is part of the administration interface and would seem to be 
>>part of the overall list services design/implementation.
>>
>>
>>>i'm not sure i understand why that is the case or if it was something this list agreed to.
>>
>>Such decisions would surely have to be taken by a consensus of users?
>>
>>
>>>i can understand the list not being public,
>>
>>The list _is_ public, in the sense that _anyone_ can *read* the archives 
>>(and gain access to data via google, for example). The only restriction 
>>is in _subscribing_ and therefore writing to the list, where we first 
>>request that an introductory message (also known as a roll-call) is 
>>first provided, briefly describing the subscriber's participation in 
>>indymedia as a volunteer with particular collective(s) - since the 
>>principle is that non-indymedia-volunteers do not get to subscribe here 
>>(but anyone can still read the archives).
>>
>>
>>>but only available to list admins make less sense.  is there a reason for this
>>
>>See above
>>
>>
>>>and if there isn't, can we have it available to those who are on the list?  since the imc communication list is for inter-imc communication, knowing who is on the list with you (apart from the sporadic intros - which would be great to have wiki-ized), would be helpful.  just a thought.
>>
>>I've run a quick experiment and, well, yes, it seems it _would_ be 
>>mostly possible to create a wiki page listing imc-communication members' 
>>email addresses and names/nicks and their respective introductory 
>>messages or roll-calls (thanks to the above-mentioned archives!).
>>
>>But it would require several hours of (manual or programmer's) work to 
>>do so.
>>
>>And, IMHO, it may not be very desireable to make so much personal 
>>information (easily) publically available...
>>
>>Once again, it looks like an issue, if you really want to pursue it, 
>>that would need to be debated and decided by list- and imc-members.
>>
>>
>>>thanks,
>>>sheri
>>
>>at your service :)
>>
>>PS: if have an interest but difficulty knowing who someone is in this 
>>list, try running a google search on the email address (but replace the 
>>@ with a space), combined with "imc-communication") and scan the results...
>>
>>-- 
>>andrés
>>imc-canarias
>>imc-communication admin work group
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-- 
andrés
imc canarias
imc communication admin



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