[Imc-communication] imc-belgium disaffiliation proposal and where it is heading or isn't heading
christophe at indymedia.be
Tue May 10 07:48:46 PDT 2005
I only say that imc-liège now also agrees that we are doing good work
and that you can't see anything wrong at the website.
But they go on repeating that there has been a stalinist-maoist-whatever
take over. A mysterious take over that left no track on the website. And
they have no proof of that except some digging in the personal history
and personal relations of a few volunteers of imc-belgium. Do you really
find it normal that is up to me to proof they are wrong?
What the real reasons might be? Dunno, I guess a lot of personal
feelings, frustration and lack of trust from both sides like in most
conflicts. And above all a complete different vision on what Indymedia
can or could be. But I leave that to the mediator to find out.
On di, 2005-05-10 at 16:22 +0200, strega wrote:
> If all forms of critizism of your collective is speculation and invisible rumours or even lies, or if that is how you and your collective handle all critizism (and from what I have seen so far, this _is_ how it is being handled), and if all critizism of you is lacking any ground or reality-check what so ever, then maybe it would be a good idea to ask all the other, former members of imc-belgium _why_ such critizism is so systematically repeated. Is it that they take pleasure in lying and spreading rumours, or do they have any reason, other than what is stated in the critizism, to act as they do?
> This is a very personal reflection, but you tend to brush off anything that is said about you as if it has _absolutely nothing_ to do with you or how you operate. It is as if you consider those who critizise you as completely delusional.
> Then please forgive me for taking all those other delusional belgians seriously, and also for assuming that you would. Conflict-resolution would now simply consist in committing all those against you into a
> proper mentalinstitution.
> Please please tell me that I am wrong.
> >In my opinion we speak of pure speculation. Something they think might
> be true, but that is not visible. I'm sorry you don't read Dutch and
> French, otherwise you could verify this by yourself. That's much
> stronger than believing some unvisible rumours.
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