[Imc-communication] UC-IMC the headquarters of indymedia?
bhagy at urbana.indymedia.org
Mon May 23 15:17:06 PDT 2005
i think there might be a misunderstanding here as to what is meant by
sponsorship. it is true (for good or bad) that the uc-imc is the fiscal
sponsor for what is refered to the global imc. now...here is what is
meant by sponsor: if the global imc needs to write a grant to get
assistance for an IMC, and the grant money is based in the US (a
foundation or private sponsor, for examples), then they are stuck. since
most grant money distributed from organizations in the US require a
not-for-profit organization to be involved (well, ok, i don't know if
"most grant money" is accurrate, but a lot of it is), the global imc (not
being a not-for-profit unto itself) cannot write a grant. therefore, they
ask the uc-imc to fiscally sponsor the global imc so that the uc-imc can
write the grant on the global imc's behalf. if the grant proposal is
accepted, the money is given to the uc-imc from the grant organization
(with complete understanding that the money continues beyond the uc-imc),
the uc-imc deposits the grant money into the global imc bank account
(currently with the uc-imc, but this CAN rotate across the planet, if so
desires....take that up on imc-finance). then the global imc sends the
money off to the IMC (or project) which needed it. To be exact, since the
global IMC's bank account is currently with the uc-imc, the global imc
finance list tells the uc-imc to send the money to whereever it goes. the
uc-imc makes all transactions transparent by posting them to the
it is important to know that this applies to grant funding from the US
(which is why i have said the fiscal sponsorship of the global imc only
really applies in the US). rules for grant funding from other countries
is different. and if global imc wishes to pursue funding from other grant
organizations not in the US, then the uc-imc is NOT involved. if people
think it's a good idea to have multiple fiscal sponsors for the global
imc, that too should be taken up on the imc-finance list.
hope this helps clear up things, or at least starts to.
(speakin for myself, as usual)
On Mon, 23 May 2005, deva wrote:
> Sascha is not the only one that has made such a comment. Other comments were
> made on this list sort of correcting Sascha's statement to say just sponsor
> of indymedia in US... which is also way too big of a statement, and claiming
> much more than is truth.
> This is to say, it was not just one random statement so I am glad UC folks
> are thinking about this and what it means.
> It is ironic and predictable that it would be someone from the US who would
> claim to be the center of indymedia. Maybe in the world today, only a US
> American would /could make such a statement. The rest of the world should be
> careful of this country. Even many good people carry an unconscious imperial
> This is a hard country to live in. There is a great spiritual poverty here,
> amidst all the material wealth.
> On May 22, 2005, at 10:02 PM, Jay wrote:
>> Sascha's statements of the UC-IMC building being in any way "central" to
>> the Indymedia network seem to have in the context of his general enthusiasm
>> for the UC-IMC's recent accomplishments. There seems to be a lot of debate
>> currently within the UC-IMC about this particular statement; it is *not*
>> the consensed-upon opinion of their collective. Sascha has been criticized
>> for making it, both throughout the network and locally, and I don't think
>> that particular criticism is unfair.
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