[Imc-communication] Response to Questions/Concerns About Indy Book Project

Susan Chenelle srcnyc at riseup.net
Mon Aug 14 20:26:17 PDT 2006


The plan for the money is described at the end of the Call for  
Submissions, and can be found here: http://www.indybook.org

Susan


On Aug 14, 2006, at 6:17 PM, deva wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> This may have been covered already. If the book sells 10 million  
> copies and produces lots of money, what happens with it?
>
> I, like GDM, would like to see a freely distributed electronic  
> version. In the world where all things come to be measured in dollars  
> (or other currency) it is good to see examples of other values to be  
> promoted.
>
> regards,
> deva
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Susan wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> This is Chris Anderson from NYC IMC and the Indypendent writing in  
>> about
>> this Indybook project. Sincere apologies for taking so long to get  
>> back to
>> everyone -- we haven't been trying to avoid questions or not dialog  
>> about
>> this. There were a few things we needed to discuss with our publisher,
>> most of them dealing with people's questions and things we needed
>> clarified. We wanted to make sure we had definitive answers to  
>> people's
>> concerns about licensing, especially, so people could know where we  
>> stand.
>>
>> To address one question a few people raised: The book produced from  
>> this
>> project will in no way be presented as "by Indymedia."
>>
>> Alster and others had this concern:
>>
>> "Generally, if I was to choose, I would prefer books on Indymedia  
>> being
>> produced on more open terms. Terms providing the editors the  
>> opportunity
>> to retain copyright and the ability to republish the book contents  
>> both
>> under an open license, and for free. To all of those who cannot pay  
>> even
>> the reduced price as this would still equal their daily or weekly  
>> income,
>> this would be the only way to gain access to such books, too.
>>
>> My interpretation of what you wrote on the legal terms makes me think
>> that, for this book, (re-)publishing its contents in terms of an open
>> license (for money or not) or for free (under an open or proprietary
>> license) will both not be possible."
>>
>> Actually it WOULD be possible. The word we finally got back from the
>> publisher is that all the individual submissions to the book would be
>> "open source" -- he didn't use those words, but that is basically  
>> what he
>> meant. Individual contributors would be free to repost and re-use  
>> their
>> contributions wherever they wanted, in any language they wanted. And  
>> put
>> them up on the internet. The one thing folks could not do would be to
>> distribute the entire book AS A WHOLE as a pdf or something like  
>> that. But
>> the individual contributions would be open source.
>>
>> There were other questions about the book. The first, dealing with our
>> email: We'll be changing to a riseup or other account soon, and  
>> getting
>> away from gmail.
>>
>> Another question involved paying the photographers from the global  
>> south.
>> We haven't actually discussed this with them, but we would be happy  
>> to. We
>> actually moved in this direction at first when we got some feedback  
>> from
>> the "We Are Everywhere" project that this seemed a good way to go. But
>> we'd love to talk more about it with people.
>>
>> Toya also asked: "How much it will be the cost of the book for the  
>> people
>> from the third world countries..." we still need to check with Disinfo
>> about this...publication rights in other countries, translation  
>> rights,
>> etc. But we'll keep people posted. And honestly, you may know more  
>> than
>> they do about available options, so it would be nice to hear your
>> thoughts.
>>
>> Again, we're sorry for it taking so long to get back to people on this
>> stuff. We were thinking that a good way to proceed might be to have  
>> an irc
>> chat in the not too distant future -- maybe Monday, August 21? What  
>> times
>> would work best for people? Or other dates?
>>
>> The "wiki thoughts" idea is great. We're also working on setting up a
>> specific book twiki and will let folks know as soon as we have it  
>> done.
>>
>> Finally, here is the original proposal link as sent to the imc-comm  
>> list:
>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2006-June/ 
>> 0603-0l.html
>>
>> all the best,
>> chris, susan, and john
>> nyc imc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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