[Imc-communication] [EN] [ES] [FR] introducing IMC-ALTERNATIVES and invitation to join (fwd)

[Jay]

Hi Boud, imc-communication and imc-cms,

At 11/1/2006, boud wrote:
>hi imc-communication, imc-alternatives,
>
>(français en bas)
>
>(en)
>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:52:37 -0600
>>From: Jay <jay...
>>To: imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org
>>Subject: [Imc-communication] [EN] [ES] [FR] introducing IMC-ALTERNATIVES and
>>     invitation to join
>
>>SUMMARY:
>>The "imc-alternatives" working group invites you to join us in the
>>formation of a global "Alternatives IMC!" The "Alternatives IMC" will be a
>>"next generation" Indymedia website that will both gather content about all
>  ...
>
>The idea is great :).

We at imc-alternatives agree. :)))

>  However, it seems that some communication is
>missing regarding codebases, that's why i'm cc-ing to imc-communication...
>
>>2) To develop the Alternatives Indymedia site to be a "next-generation" IMC
>>site. This will include offering both traditional IMC features (open
>>publishing newswire, central feature column) as well as collaborative
>>editing (aka open editing) and wiki work-pages, integrated forums and
>>project-oriented mailing lists, blogs, RSS feeds, and other advances that
>>will inspire active participation in the site.  To accomplish this, we want
>>to work with visionary techies and innovative coders (maybe YOU??) to
>>pioneer new versions of code (perhaps using Drupal, perhaps using Plone),
>
>i would suggest that imc-alternatives might want to work together with
>indymedia techies (and supporters) - who are going through a
>systematic process of looking at 14 different codebases (CMSes) in
>order to decide which would be most useful/realistic for us to support
>in the long term. plone and drupal are just two of these among many.
>
>Reports on the different CMSes are expected to be finished by the end
>of November, and then a shortlist will be made by the end of December.
>The method of deciding hasn't been decided upon, so presumably it will
>be rough consensus on irc + wiki.
>
>If the imc-alternatives group wants to have 
>general support from indymedia techies, it might 
>be a good idea to work together with imc-cms
>(most activity and de facto decision-making happens in irc on #cms and/or
>on the sarava wiki, not on the mailing list):
>
>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-cms
>http://techmeet.sarava.org/English/CMSSurveyList
>
>The process of selecting one (or more) "favoured" CMS(es) will have
>many practical effects and consequences, so it may not be a good idea
>to claim that two of these are already favoured when we are two months
>away from even choosing a shortlist...
>

Absolutely.  This is why we're reaching out to 
imc-tech, imc-cms and the network as this point, 
while both projects are still in their earliest 
stages.  There are only a couple code-savvy 
people who are on the imc-alternatives list right 
now, and while we have had some discussion of 
possilbe code bases to use for the site (that is 
when the idea of drupal and plone came up, among 
other options, becuase those were codebases with 
which they're currently familiar), we definitely 
have to connect with a community of enthusiastic 
techies to make this part of the vision possible.

There is real excitement in the imc-alternatives 
group about working closely with the imc-cms 
effort, with one possible (and potentially ideal) 
route being to develop the alternatives site as a 
test project for indymedia's new code.  So, we're 
reaching out now to introduce the 
imc-alternatives project to imc-tech and imc-cms 
in order to start figuring out the best way to work together.

Jay


>(fr)
>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:52:37 -0600
>>From: Jay <jay...
>>To: imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org
>>Subject: [Imc-communication] [EN] [ES] [FR] introducing IMC-ALTERNATIVES and
>>     invitation to join
>
>>SUMMARY:
>>The "imc-alternatives" working group invites you to join us in the
>>formation of a global "Alternatives IMC!" The "Alternatives IMC" will be a
>>"next generation" Indymedia website that will both gather content about all
>  ...
>
>L'idée est bonne :). Pourtant, il me semble qu'il y a de la communication
>qui manque concernant le choix de code, c'est 
>pourquoi je fais cc à imc-communication...
>
>>2) To develop the Alternatives Indymedia site to be a "next-generation" IMC
>>site. This will include offering both traditional IMC features (open
>>publishing newswire, central feature column) as well as collaborative
>>editing (aka open editing) and wiki work-pages, integrated forums and
>>project-oriented mailing lists, blogs, RSS feeds, and other advances that
>>will inspire active participation in the site.  To accomplish this, we want
>>to work with visionary techies and innovative coders (maybe YOU??) to
>>pioneer new versions of code (perhaps using Drupal, perhaps using Plone),
>
>Je suggérerais que imc-alternatives puisse vouloir travailler ensemble
>avec les techies indymedia (et d'autres) - qui sont en train de
>systématiquement étudier 14 codes (CMS) différents afin de décider
>lequel(s) serai(en)t le(s) plus utile(s)/réaliste(s) que nous pourrions
>soutenir sur le long terme. plone et drupal ne 
>sont que deux choix parmi plusieurs.
>
>Des analyses des CMS différents sont attendues 
>jusqu'en fin novembre, et une liste courte 
>serait établie vers fin décembre. La méthode de 
>prise de décision n'a pas encore été décidée, mais on pourrait imaginer
>que ce soit le consensus approximatif sur irc + wiki.
>
>Si le groupe imc-alternatives souhaiterait d'avoir un soutien large
>des techies indymédia, il pourrait être avantageux de travailler ensemble
>avec imc-cms (la plupart de l'activité se passe sur l'irc sur #cms et/ou
>sur le wiki sarava, et très peu sur la liste de discussion) :
>
>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-cms
>http://techmeet.sarava.org/English/CMSSurveyList
>
>Le processus de sélection d'un (ou plus) CMS « 
>favorisés » va avoir plusieurs effets et 
>conséquences pratiques, il ne serait pas forcément
>une bonne idée de suggérer que deux parmi eux sont déjà favorisés lorsque
>nous sommes encore deux mois du choix d'une liste courte...
>
>
>solidarity
>boud
>
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