[Imc-communication] [Imc] UCIMC: Concern about advertisements for Giga-$ non-free software companies

[Jay]

Please please, let's try to keep personal insults off the imc-communication 
list.

A lot of us are interested in seeing the discussion about the UC-IMC 
continue to unfold, but will much less interested if it moves away from 
disagreements over how IMCs should handle money and into direct attacks.

At 9/20/2006, deva wrote:
>I don't know if you are an asshole, or have some sort of vendetta against 
>me, but I'm telling you you misread my post. I did not accuse anyone of 
>lying. Go read it again and figure it out.
>
>Your idea of engaging civilly and respectfully means subtle barbs and 
>attacks with a facade of pleasantry. Maybe you learn this behavior in the 
>corporate world, but I am not buying it.
>
>deva
>
>
>On Sep 20, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
>
>>deva wrote:
>>>Do note that you misread my post. But nice try at going on the attack to 
>>>deflect criticism. deva
>>
>>Deva, I'm not sure if you are simply trolling or if you have some sort of 
>>vendetta against the UCIMC.  You said, "I don't think you even bothered 
>>to look at the options boud suggested. You may as well have just saved 
>>all the words you wrote and said 'We are not interested in exploring such 
>>options at this time.'"  I'm telling you that I was the one who looked at 
>>these options and that you should apologize for suggesting otherwise.
>>
>>This isn't about deflecting criticism, it's about engaging civilly and 
>>respectfully.
>>
>>--Sascha
>>
>>>On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
>>>>deva wrote:
>>>>>On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know whether any of the free software packages you mention were
>>>>>>available when we made the decision to use said software was made six
>>>>>>years ago.
>>>>>So you did not  investigate alternatives back then? or you were not 
>>>>>around then?
>>>>
>>>>We did investigate alternatives and made the decision, based on what we 
>>>>needed, to go with Quickbooks.  We had, in fact, started with Quicken 
>>>>(which I was familiar with and had an extra copy of).  We wanted to 
>>>>then go to a free and open source version, but none did the type of 
>>>>classed accounting that we needed.  Over the years we have looked for 
>>>>free open source alternatives every time we've had to upgrade our 
>>>>accounting software (the last time being in late 2003 when we switched 
>>>>to Quickbooks 2004 Pro).  I am certain that the next time we upgrade 
>>>>we'll do the same search and evaluation and, if a FOSS alternative is 
>>>>available, go with that over Quickbooks.
>>>>
>>>>>>  Anyway, we now have six years of financial
>>>>>>data that would need to be converted to something else in order to
>>>>>>utilize freeware, assuming it is even appropriate. We have plenty of
>>>>>>work to do without adding a large burden to achieve a result of very
>>>>>>limited meaning.
>>>>>I don't think you even bothered to look at the options boud suggested. 
>>>>>You may as well have just saved all the words you wrote and said "We 
>>>>>are not interested in exploring such options at this time"
>>>>
>>>>I was the one who did these searches and I think you owe Mike and the 
>>>>UCIMC an apology for claiming that folks were lying.
>>>>
>>>>--Sascha
>>
>>--
>>Sascha Meinrath
>>Executive Director  *  Principal          *  President
>>CUWiN              *** The Ethos Group   *** Acorn Active Media
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>
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