[Imc-communication] [Imc] UCIMC: Concern about advertisements for Giga-$ non-free software companies

[Wendy Edwards]

Actually, Sascha's been far more polite than I would have been.
The Finance people have gradually developed a set of procedures
to perform the tasks that allow us to remain afloat.  Although
we're willing to listen to suggestions, I really don't see
why we need to spend time and energy defending ourselves.  To
be honest, the people who do the work in activists groups
generally get to make the decisions, and that's what's happened
here.

Wendy



On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 05:01:20PM -0700, deva wrote:
> I don't know if you are an asshole, or have some sort of vendetta  
> against me, but I'm telling you you misread my post. I did not accuse  
> anyone of lying. Go read it again and figure it out.
> 
> Your idea of engaging civilly and respectfully means subtle barbs and  
> attacks with a facade of pleasantry. Maybe you learn this behavior in  
> the corporate world, but I am not buying it.
> 
> deva
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> 
> >deva wrote:
> >>Do note that you misread my post. But nice try at going on the  
> >>attack to deflect criticism. deva
> >
> >Deva, I'm not sure if you are simply trolling or if you have some  
> >sort of vendetta against the UCIMC.  You said, "I don't think you  
> >even bothered to look at the options boud suggested. You may as  
> >well have just saved all the words you wrote and said 'We are not  
> >interested in exploring such options at this time.'"  I'm telling  
> >you that I was the one who looked at these options and that you  
> >should apologize for suggesting otherwise.
> >
> >This isn't about deflecting criticism, it's about engaging civilly  
> >and respectfully.
> >
> >--Sascha
> >
> >>On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> >>>deva wrote:
> >>>>On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I do not know whether any of the free software packages you  
> >>>>>mention were
> >>>>>available when we made the decision to use said software was  
> >>>>>made six
> >>>>>years ago.
> >>>>So you did not  investigate alternatives back then? or you were  
> >>>>not around then?
> >>>
> >>>We did investigate alternatives and made the decision, based on  
> >>>what we needed, to go with Quickbooks.  We had, in fact, started  
> >>>with Quicken (which I was familiar with and had an extra copy  
> >>>of).  We wanted to then go to a free and open source version, but  
> >>>none did the type of classed accounting that we needed.  Over the  
> >>>years we have looked for free open source alternatives every time  
> >>>we've had to upgrade our accounting software (the last time being  
> >>>in late 2003 when we switched to Quickbooks 2004 Pro).  I am  
> >>>certain that the next time we upgrade we'll do the same search  
> >>>and evaluation and, if a FOSS alternative is available, go with  
> >>>that over Quickbooks.
> >>>
> >>>>> Anyway, we now have six years of financial
> >>>>>data that would need to be converted to something else in order to
> >>>>>utilize freeware, assuming it is even appropriate. We have  
> >>>>>plenty of
> >>>>>work to do without adding a large burden to achieve a result of  
> >>>>>very
> >>>>>limited meaning.
> >>>>I don't think you even bothered to look at the options boud  
> >>>>suggested. You may as well have just saved all the words you  
> >>>>wrote and said "We are not interested in exploring such options  
> >>>>at this time"
> >>>
> >>>I was the one who did these searches and I think you owe Mike and  
> >>>the UCIMC an apology for claiming that folks were lying.
> >>>
> >>>--Sascha
> >
> >-- 
> >Sascha Meinrath
> >Executive Director  *  Principal          *  President
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> >
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