[Imc-communication] Building the case to disaffiliate de.indy

Tony tony at cactusnetwork.org.uk
Sat Dec 15 03:59:16 PST 2007


Hello Diet

You obviously have some issues with the way IMC Germany works - 
rather than shout censorship and asking straight away for 
disaffiliation on Global lists - which is not a helpful way forward. 
Are there not other routes you could take first - Taking to your own 
collective in Sydney, TAlking to the German lists in a constructive 
and engaged way (like one supportive IMC'er to another). Or if these 
are not working talk to the resolve list or even IMC europe list to 
discuss the points more carefully.

Without knowing at all what the spark for your accusations are - i do 
know that alot of IMC's use their local autonomy to create differing 
editorial guidelines, suitable to their local situation. German as an 
imc went through long discussions when they were setting up their 
EG's as they had particular local issues and the Global community 
supported their way of working. They are a very hard working network 
and run a very effective site for activists - so again any i think 
ant criticism should be leveled in a respective way.

cheers tony
one of imc-london
(not speaking on my collectives behalf)


>Dear ng,
>
>I accuse the people who run German IndyMedia of elitist censorship on a
>grand scale which obstructs the international activism that the IMC movement
>is meant to foster, support and carry.
>
>They practise intellectual apartheid by insisting that everything posted has
>to be the original work of the person posting. I contend that there are IMC
>users who cannot or don't want to write for various reasons, not the least
>of which is underprivileged education. To deny them the chance to join a
>petition, for example, locks them out of political participation.
>
>What looks so disjointed to you now - and I agree it must look like that,
>but I haven't thought of a way to improve the presention
>yet - is my attempt to string together the examples of their censorship.
>Pointing out each case on its own will cause the older ones to be forgotten
>and make everything look less atrocious than it is.
>
>And by the way, I am astonished to see imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org
>in your cc. I thought I was on the "process" list. Is that different?
>
>Regards,
>
>Diet
>
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