[Imc-communication] Clarification Venezuela-centro

[pina at riseup.net]

Hey pimp

I agree with you that things the way they are rigth now is terrible. Leave
things in limbo, in my opinion, is quite derespectfull.

Why this collective has not been aproval by new-imc? Is it because
imc-venezuela centro has not fullfield the requiers to enter the netowork
or maybe cuase new-imc is going to a rough phase, with little support for
the volunteers of our network?

I honestely dont know the answer, but i feel we should respect the process
we all agree, this means that we should not jump parts of it but identify
where and why it is not functioning and try to sort it out.

Could someone from new-imc could give us a light in this discussion?

pina


> [EN]
> Greetings,
>
> It is true that there is no mail on the process list with a deadline
> for approval. There was, however, a proposal on the new-imc list to put
> the application on the process-list.
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2008-January/0102-k5.html
> This has not been blocked, yet this next step was not taken. The result
> is that the process is hanging in a limbo without anybody giving clear
> arguments for this.
>
> The application should be put on process. Imc-Venezuela can always
> block, but at least we'll have a democratic discussion about this.
>
> [CSTLN]
> Buenas,
>
> Es verdad que no hay una mail al process con fecha de clausura. Pero
> hay una proposición sobre la lista new-imc para poner una mail sobre la
> lista process.
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2008-January/0102-k5.html
> El proposición no esta bloqueada, pero el proposición tampoco no esta
> efectuada. Resultado: el trayecto esta bloqueada sin argumentos claros.
>
> Tenemos que poner el applicación sobre la lista de process.
> Cmi-Venezuela puede bloquear, pero necessitamos una discussion abierto
> en el red.
>
> Ciao,
> Pim.
>
>
> --- pina em riseup.net wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I understood the same as toya. I took a quick look at the archives of
>> imc-process and imc-communication, and I havent found any e-mail
>> presenting imc-venezuela centro with a dead line for there aproval.
>>
>> You might got confused with this email sent to imc-communication by
>> xaba
>>
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2008-January/0105-la.html),
>> which was foward from the new-imc list where joe ask for the new-imc
>> working group to aproval the new imc in order to go to next step, to
>> be
>> aproval by the indy network. This next step was not taken.
>>
>> I also checked the imc-process archives and found that no similiar
>> e-mail
>> was sent there. The only e-mail regarind imc-venezuela centro was
>> there
>> online form
>>
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2007-December/1230-fd.html).
>>
>> It would be great if someone from new-imc could give us an update of
>> the
>> process so far.
>>
>> in solidarity
>> pina
>> imc-brasil
>>
>> > hi,
>> > people from indymedia brasil understood that the deadeline of
>> january 5th
>> > was just to send the proposal from new-imc to imc-process....
>> > wasn't?
>> > what is the status of this process? can someone clarify it for us?
>> thanks
>> > toya
>> >
>> > oi,
>> > pessoal do cmi brasil entendeu que o prazo de janeiro 5th era
>> apenas para
>> > que a proposta saisse do new-imc e fosse para o imc-process...
>> > nao era?
>> > qual eh o status deste processo? alguem pode explicar para a gente?
>> valeu
>> > toya
>> >
>> >
>> > [traducao rapida do outro email]
>> > oi todxs,
>> > eu posso estar errado, mas eu acho que o prazo para aceitar o cmi
>> > venezuela centro jah passou (janeiro 5th, 1pm).
>> >
>> > Eles preencheram o formulario, aprovaram a POU, e tem um site muito
>> > bonito.
>> > Jah que nao houve nenhum bloqueio, isso quer dizer que eles sao
>> parte da
>> > rede.
>> > A nao ser que a gente ta fazendo as regras de forma arbitraria a
>> medida
>> > que o tempo passa, claro.
>> > ;-)
>> > Greetings,
>> > Pim. (ovl-belgium)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I could be wrong, but it seems to me the deadline for the
>> >> imc-Venezuela-centro application has passed (January 5th, 1 pm).
>> >>
>> >> They filled out the form, approved the POU, and have a great
>> looking
>> >> site.
>> >> Since there was no block, this means they are part of the network.
>> >>
>> >> So can we please welcome them to the network?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Unless we are arbitrarily making up rules as we go along, off
>> course
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> Pim. (ovl-belgium)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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