[Imc-cymru] Re: [Imc-uk-process] Cardiff/ Swansea/ Wales

[ilyan]

Hello Sam, Jack, and all.
 Mayler wrote:

>I agree that
>
>>>I've been chatting to Matt from Swansea about setting up a proper welsh IMC." 
>>>
>>Is a bad choice of words, It would be wrong however to think that Bristol were 'pushing' for anything, we were contacted by Matt, and gave him advice the best we could about getting involved in IMC.
>>
Good.

>>2, Hold a advertised public meeting(s) to discuss the possibility of IMC in your area, Try to get at least 6 people to attend, invite other local groups.
>>
Indycymru has done so.  People rather lose interest when you tell them 
how much work there is in running a fully open access site that 
publishes and argues all submissions.   Portugal failed to maintain that 
policy.  By being a small site with email registered contributors, so 
far indycymru has kept going on those lines.   It is more difficult now 
my wife has been clobbered with osteoporosis,  asthma, and arthritis and 
needs care.  And if an enemy made a small effort it would be easily 
swamped at any time.   So far extreme right wing comments/submission  
just make an opportunity ...

>>3, request a mailing list
>>
Indycymru has one that this is circulating to.

>>4, agree your mission statement/editorial guidelines
>>
Once I proposed following the Portuguese guidelines the discussion came 
to a full stop.    They would be incompatible with UKindymedia 
guidelines, but, as Portugal had already had theirs accepted are not 
necessarily incompatible with Indymedia.

>>5, start developing the website
>>
>>I'm not sure at what stage you are at in Caerdydd/Cardiff, Are you participating in the Admin of the UK site?
>>
I am not in Cardiff, but there are people running indymedia type sites 
there.
   I have been to some UK meetings, but do not participate in their 
admin.  It is as much as I can do to keep indycymru 
<http://www.indycymru.org.uk> going as a welsh window on the world.

>>You wrote
>>"UKindymedia is unwilling to discuss the proposals put forward to prevent 
>>any future witch hunts   There was only one response to me raising it 
>>again recently, and that came off list.
>>
>>It is OK if Bristol get rid of someone they cannot work with.    But 
>>going around secretly spreading lies is unforgivable.  Is it right to 
>>associate with such people?"
>>
>>I assume that this is a reference to Bristols somewhat messy parting of the ways with Tony G.
>>
I do not know enough about Bristol over this.   I was in Sheffield and 
asked what was going on because I smelt a witch hunt.  It was denied so 
I went to a different workshop. 
 The worst thing I know about Bristol is their extreme political 
correctness about a 'racist' joke about  sand dredging  enabling the sea 
to break into the old mineworkings and Wales disappearing into the 
sea.   - as though that joke was not made in Wales by the welsh.

>>The main problem that we had was that we had no process to deal with the situation. We have now developed a process:
>>
>>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-bristol/2004-July/0709-qo.html
>>
has that also been adopted by UKindymedia?

>>"Or is it all a great con being worked by EU agents?"
>>
>>I think this is a little silly- but no rest assured we are not shadowy EU Agents, we are just a bunch of people muddling along trying to produce independent media tools the best we can.
>>
there is no suggestion that all are, what I usually say is KGBetc.,   I 
am pretty certain that there are infiltrators, or certain highly paid 
professionals are falling down on their job.  Some things do disappear 
without explanation on UKindymedia.   That could be random mischance. 
 But I met a very influential person in 1954 who planned to make 
Socialism impossible in the UK, was planting agents in the Brit secret 
Services, as well as the Army and the Labour Party.  Today Blair carries 
out policies that man proposed then,  he was very efficient and quite 
clever enough, and did predict the gang of four splitting Labour.  I 
told him that what he was doing was a criminal conspiracy  and he should 
desist.

>>Cheers Sam
>>
Keep life fun.   "The Man who was Sunday" by G. K. Chesterton is a good 
read.
Regards
Ilyan
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