[Imc-cymru] New-imc

[ilyan]

Genny -
One address definitely looked wrong. so looked dodgy.

That half a dozen people sign up in one day when no one has signed for 
months isn't dodgy when they are recognisable as real.  though it does 
appear that there is some organisation at work.  I do not think it is 
the SWP. or the CP.  What I have to ask is where were all these people 
when Indycymru had work to be done.

That is before socialistyouth reposted onto Indycymru a  pack of lies 
from Bristol when it had already been posted and answered on 
Indycymru.    - anything like that posted on UK would be hidden.  After 
making themselves into right idiots, they are probably responsible for 
scrambling the indymedia archive so the site became  unviewable and is 
now 404.

Serencymru -
Since Blair and Bush use the word, and have so corrupted it, it is 
better not to use the term 'democracy'.   In any case it is nothing more 
than the fascism of the majority,  much beloved by dogmatic Marxists who 
have lost sight of Marx's ultimate objective.   That is advice, not 
critical argument.

Ana
Although there were attacks from Bristol, I note that Sam Mayler (I 
think I have the name right) talks a great deal of sense there, so it 
might be possible if necessary.   

My main concern is that if the title Indycymru is used, the site 
continues to support the freedom struggle of all the conquered nations, 
maintains open discussions, is a welsh window on the world, and 
continues the principles of "The Miners' Next Step"..

Welsh means stranger, perhaps patriots can concede a play on words 
involving IMC Wales as accurately being the IMC of strangers.    No 
problem.  I cannot understand why there is no IMC Wrexham, Cardiff, or 
Swansea.  Even Tonypandy.

Regards
Ilyan



Genny Bove wrote:
> Ilyan - How can new subscribers "look a bit dodgy"?  I'm sorry - I 
> just don't understand.  Maybe I'm being naive, but surely if people 
> just subscribe with a name and email address, they shouldn't be 
> assumed to be suspect, should they?  Or have they been misbehaving?  I 
> put out a call for people interested in setting up a Wales indymedia 
> site to join the list, so maybe that's why there have been a lot.
>
> Ana - thanks for your offer of help.  I really hadn't appreciated the 
> politics of indymedia versus some other form of independent media, and 
> the national issue etc. which some of the people posting here have now 
> outlined.  I still would like there to be some Welsh-oriented site on 
> indymedia uk, but I don't know how possible that is if other people 
> are strongly in opposition to that happening.  If people are already 
> working on something as a result of discussions at the social forum, 
> that's great if it happens, but will I be able to post something to uk 
> indymedia and just press a button to send it to the Wales site if 
> that's how it's set up?  Well, I guess it needs a lot more discussion.
>
> Genny
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