[Imc-cymru] Imc-cymru etc Marc letter

[Ilyan]

Somehow Marc is reading the imc-cymru list but is not registerd to sent 
to it.    So someone has to spend time  passing his  lies on.

Conspiracies reported on Indycymru were ones based on personal 
experience.   The most damaging one to Indycymru was the plot in 
Indymedia  that called Tony Gosling a Fascist.    They ran a witch hunt 
that even corrupted the  Union site run by Eric Lee.    Indycymru later 
had someone spend about  week in Gosling's company and found no evidence 
of Fascism.    It was not necessary to shoot him as a spy. 

The other conspiracy talked about on IndyCymru was the plot to make 
Socialism impossible in the UK that I discovered in 1954.  Blair now 
imposes the policies of that plotter,  that Conspiracy has taken over 
the Labour Party and penetrated most other political parties in the UK.

So Marc is a Parliamentarian?    An enemy of the pinciples set out in 
the Miners' Next Step ?   We see where imc-wales stands.  he joins those 
who pretend to believe in open publishing but run a censorship.   

Marc complains Indycymru was not a news outlet for campaigners.   He 
lies.  Everything submitted was published, and all campaigns know about 
were visited and reported on.  

Why do you lie Marc?   And why did Ana repeat your lies when they were 
exposed.  

Ilyan







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Date:
Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:15:26 +0000

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Fortunately few people left on this list are going to fall for this kind 
of paranoid conspiracy theorising. I have no idea what happened to 
IndyCymru but it was full of the most appalling conspiracy theories 
rather than being a news outlet for campaigners.

The only bigot I see is someone who pins labels on people who don't want 
to work with him. But then you'll probably reject my comments as someone 
who's "Parliamentarian" and "anti-Welsh". I've lost count of the people 
who have been abused and put off by this kind of ranting.

In terms of the meeting in Wrecsam, the initial responses were all from 
N or Mid Wales. There are people involved from S Wales, so another 
meeting can happen there. With the ongoing protests at Hafod, LNG and 
other struggles like Burberry, the need for a independent media site is 
obvious and that's what we're trying to do.

Marc

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Subject: Re: [Imc-cymru] Imc-cymru etc
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:57:27 +0000
From: Ilyan <ac.thomas at ntlworld.com>
Reply-To: IMC Wales <imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org>
To: IMC Wales <imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org>
References: <mailman.57.1169150571.11756.imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org> 
<BD2664A2-9C72-4B1B-83C0-E2EFCE54EB1F at phonecoop.coop>

Is it significant that an independent welsh uncensored site was
sabotaged out of existence soon after it put in an application to be
IMC, and that setting up a censored welsh site is being engineered.
Who profits?   The Establishment, The Labour Party,  Parliamentarians,
Gauleiters, and Quislings.   Is it significant that Ana did nothing to
get the Indycymru application considered.     If we had had a rejection
we would know the present nature of Indymedia.

Should we be doing a Hemmingway about it?  - he was asked about not
telling the Spanish Civil War truth.

Some of the people now joining the United Konformists censorship welsh
group were invited to be part of IndyCymru years ago and rejected the
opportunity.  Probably because they are Parliamentarians, or anti-welsh,
or some sort of bigot unable to work with a variety of non conforming
people.  Why else?

Indycymru meetings have been more central, and organised so that it is
usually possible to get a lift to the meeting place from most parts of
Wales.

Ilyan