[Imc-cymru] Imc-cymru Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4

[James Dunckley]

Is it really that innacurate? But let me clarify my reservations. I'll post 
them in English so as to be inclusive.

I had no problem with the Indycymru site. I'm a little skeptical around the 
reasons for it's demise and given that Ilyan submitted a number of 
re-applications for a new site I'm skeptical as to what happened to them. I 
think that there is a certain group of people who maybe have a problem with 
Ilyan's politics and they have decided to go off and set up another site 
which reflects a more "politically correct", left wing view.

This site will be a "regional" site within UK Indymedia, and this probably 
reflects the political inclinations of some of it's backers. Well, it's not 
my inclination. I'm not a Brit I am a Welsh Republican. If we have so much 
poverty of aspiration that we cannot even have an independent welsh media 
site then how will we ever be independent as a nation, although obviously 
Cymru is obviously too small and insignificant for the lofty 
internationalism of some of the posters on this list...

I suspect this "Imc-wales" site will be censored and designed to exclude 
those who don't fit into this brit template. You only have to take a look at 
UK Indymedia to see that many of those who post up on it are vitriolically 
opposed to what they term "narrow welsh nationalism".

I think probably the best bet is for those who want to set up an "Imc-wales" 
to get on with it and those of us who want something more independent to get 
on with something else. Whatever that may be...

Jim.



>From: serencymru at phonecoop.coop
>Reply-To: IMC Wales <imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org>
>To: imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Imc-cymru] Imc-cymru Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:37:28 +0000
>
>That's quite a bold statement to make Jim. And inaccurate. To then go
>on and accuse these people of being unable to say "Cymru" based on a
>radio advert is bizarre.
>
>This list is hardly setting a good example re Cymraeg when three of
>the four participants can speak Welsh but we communicate in English.
>Motes and beams, not that I'm a fan of quoting the Bible at anyone!
>
>As regards transparency, everyone is welcome to a meeting on Feb 3rd
>in Wrexham. If you can't make that, organise one in your own area and
>see what happens. One of the issues up for debate is ensuring
>bilingualism on the site.
>
>hope to see you there
>
>Marc
>
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> > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:38:42 +0000
> > From: "James Dunckley" <serengoch at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Imc-cymru] imc-cymru list welcome
> > To: imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org, ac.thomas at ntlworld.com
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> > A load of English incomers by the sound of it. "Wales" is easier to
> > pronounce than "Cymru". I heard an English guy on a radio advert
> > the other
> > day, he pronounced "Cwmdu" as "Come-doo".
> >
> > You gotta laugh...
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> >> From: Darren Wyn Rees <darren at cymraeg.org>
> >> Reply-To: IMC Wales <imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org>
> >> To: Ilyan <ac.thomas at ntlworld.com>
> >> CC: imc-cymru at lists.indymedia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Imc-cymru] imc-cymru  list welcome
> >> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:46:04 +0000
> >>
> >> Thanks for the welcome information, Ilyan.
> >>
> >> Who do you think is backing this Indy Wales project ?
> >>
> >> It doesn't seem particularly transparent to put it mildly.
> >>
> >> I've sent this message to the imc-cymru mailing list, where
> >> discussion
> >> should continue, if you please.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Darren
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