[Imc-drupal-dev] Ivan: Translation...
mark at indymedia.org
Wed Oct 29 12:49:00 PDT 2008
Hi, this sounds great to me. Part of the project should be
contributing translations for Drupal core and all the modules the
profile is using. I guess we should come up with a short list of
supported languages we want to work on to start.
When setting up languages on radio.indymedia.org I noticed that Drupal
6 is missing some translations even for huge populations where the
internet has "arrived" (relatively speaking), for example
http://drupal.org/project/ms and http://drupal.org/project/ko and some
others were hard to find, like missing from
http://drupal.org/project/ru but I could find one on
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:10:34 -0700, Sofia JarrinT wrote:
> I think "distribution" is more correct; "prototype" sounds "square,
> standard, and normal". I think that the idea is to adapt the
> experience of Indymedia as a movement, militant and committed, to
> this generation's tools (web 2.0, blablabla), for Indymedia and for
> other collectives that need Drupal in order to create a virtual
> newspaper focused on quality of information and the community.
> An idea I have is to promote the spirit of multilinguism within the
> sought distribution, for example, for a great section of the Aymara
> and Quechua population and 34 other language varieties in Bolivia.
> Maybe the internet has not arrived to their communities, but that
> does not justify that the technology is not available in their
> language. In TRANSLATIONS http://drupal.org/project/Translations
> there's currently no translation for some of the "minority"
> languages. Perhaps we should propose the translation as part of this
> Bolivia Imc
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: IvAn Terceros R. <baon at riseup.net>
> To: imc-drupal-dev at lists.indymedia.org
> Cc: Sofia JarrinT <sofiajt at yahoo.com>; bruno at indymedia.be; Benjamin Melancon <ben at agaricdesign.com>; chyn at ojctech.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:56:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Imc-drupal-dev] Grant Proposal: 2ND DRAFT
> Pienso que "distribuci?n" es la palabra m?s correcta, "prototipo"
> suena "cuadrado", "standar" y "normal". Yo creo que la idea esta en
> adaptar la experiencia de Indymedia como movimiento, militante y
> comprometido a las herramientas de esta generaci?n (web 2.0,
> blablabla), para Indymedia y otros colectivos que necesiten de Drupal
> para crear un periodico virtual enfoncados a la calidad de la
> informaci?n y a la comunidad.
> Una idea que tengo es potenciar el espiritu del multilinguismo dentro
> de la distribuci?n que se pretende, por ejemplo en Bolivia una gran
> parte de la poblaci?n habla Aymara o Quechua o 34 variedades m?s de
> idiomas, quiza internet a?n no llego hasta donde viven, pero eso no
> justifica que la tecnolog?a no este disponible en su idioma. En
> DRUPAL TRANSLATIONS http://drupal.org/project/Translations no existen
> traducci?n para algunos idiomas "minoritarios", quiza sea bueno
> tambien plantear la traducci?n como parte del proyecto.
> Bruno De Bondt <bruno at indymedia.be> ha escrito:
> > Hi again,
> > Re-read it, some more thoughts:
> > - At the end of the 'Describe your project'-part, we currently write
> > that some IMC's switched to Drupal 'with limited success'. I think it
> > would be better to use 'with mixed success'. As far as IMC Belgium goes,
> > the switch to Drupal has been really succesful, both in terms of the
> > technology we got our hands on by switching to Drupal (quality of the
> > system, security, development community and resources, ...), as well as
> > the flexibilty that the system allows, etc. Also, if we use 'mixed', we
> > indicate from the start that we have the know how to pull this off
> > (which we really have, if you look at the list of people involved).
> > - People here also commented on the 'How is your idea innovative'-part.
> > As it is written now, the answer focuses on Indymedia, and not on the
> > Drupal IMC platform. It may be more interesting to talk about the fact
> > that we want to offer what Indymedia offered 9 years ago (= the ability
> > to publish on the web) with state of the art technology anno 2008
> > (Drupal). Said otherwise, we want to re-create what we built with
> > sf-active, Dada, Mir, ... with today's tools (also refering to the video
> > transcoding aspect in my last mail). This is really cool: people have
> > the option today to publish whatever they like on the web with today's
> > tools, but (mostly) in a commercial context. What's innovative and
> > unique about our approach, is that we want to build something that
> > allows people to do this in a non profit/non commercial context. This
> > could be Indymedia, but could just as well be a social movement,
> > affinity group, ... (I'm referring to the last sentence in the 'How will
> > your project improve the way news and information are delivered ...'-part).
> > talk to you soon,
> > - bruno
> > Bruno De Bondt wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> The second draft looks really good imho.
> >> Some thoughts:
> >> - I don't know if 'prototype' is the right word for what we want to
> >> build. Would 'distribution' be more suitable?
> >> - I think the part about the geographical communities ("How will your
> >> project improve the way news and information are delivered to geographic
> >> communities?") may need to be rewritten to emphasise on the local aspect
> >> of the project - I've heard from several people that the "locality
> >> dimension" is important for the News Challenge grants. So perhaps focus
> >> more on the 'organising platform to report local news etc'-part there?
> >> In any case, i would use the word 'local' a couple of times in that
> >> paragraph :-)
> >> - Another thing that we (Belgium Imc) would really like to look at is
> >> how to get video transcoding and distribution going in a decent way. We
> >> would like to offer a video solution to our reporters where uploaded
> >> video is transcoded to Flash video automatically and where people are
> >> able to embed it in their own site. From a pure technical perspective,
> >> this may not seem to be such a problem (there's FFmpeg, and Media Mover
> >> looks pretty cool). It's mostly a matter of getting the infrastructure
> >> right (distributed transcoding, going through a CDN etc). Anyways, it's
> >> something we will be looking into. And it might be cool to be able to
> >> offer this as part of the Drupal IMC platform (even though an IMC would
> >> still need the funds to set up the infrastructure etc. Or could we use a
> >> shared transcoding server?)
> >> - The imc-cms (and indeed imc-tech) lists might also be good places to
> >> forward this to, even if it were only to keep people up to date with
> >> what's happening in Indymedia-Drupal-land.
> >> Some other people here are reviewing the second draft - so I might send
> >> some other things over later.
> >> Sofia, thanks a bunch for putting this all together!
> >> talk to you soon,
> >> - bruno
> >> Sofia JarrinT wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>> Thanks in advance to everyone who sent suggestions for the Knight Foundation Grant proposal for an Indymedia Drupal prototype. You can view it here:
> >>> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/ImcDrupalDev
> >>> "NEWSCHALLENGEPROPOSAL.v2.doc:"
> >>> I have tried my best to incorporate ideas, but I would love for people to review it carefully and make sure it makes sense (particularly the last section on expertise).
> >>> DEADLINE:
> >>> Please review changes for Wednesday, October 29.
> >>> MONEY:
> >>> I am asking for $200,000. Roughly calculating 6-10 developers working on it, plus $50,000 for training and Tech support for IMCs that don't have Drupal developers. Is that too much?! Too little?
> >>> TIMELINE:
> >>> Amount to finalize project: 1 year (considering our decentralization, I think that's a good way to go). Comments?
> >>> Here are the IMCs that are in so far:
> >>> * Boston Imc
> >>> * Belgium Imc
> >>> * Indybay Imc
> >>> * UK Imc
> >>> * St. Louis Imc
> >>> * Columbus Imc
> >>> * Scotland Imc
> >>> * Arizona Imc
> >>> * Bolivia Imc
> >>> * Bolivia Imc
> >>> * Germany Imc
> >>> * Venezuela Imc
> >>> IMC-TECH?
> >>> Should we forward this email to the Imc-Tech list to see if there's anyone else who wants to join?
> >>> best,
> >>> Sofia J.
> >>> Boston Imc
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