[IMC-Finance] FUNDING PROPOSAL: Yearly hosting payment and helpfor SFCCP
toya at riseup.net
toya at riseup.net
Fri Jan 18 10:29:36 PST 2008
hello, ucimc finance group, as you can read the emails below, the proposal
was accept by the collectives who responded it so far. Although as we
expressed on the proposal this is an emergency situation and we need the
transfer to be done as soon as possible. that is why i would like to know
what is the best/fast way to do it. We do have a paypal account where we
could receive this money. Would that work for the ucimc finance
collective?
Waiting for an answer, and thanks for all the work.
bye
toya
> hey all,
> we discussed this at last nights ucimc-finance meeting and also
> approve of the proposal. i am fairly certain either the ucimc book
> keeper or treasurer will be contacting this group soon enough
> regarding dispersement. do email finance at ucimc.org if you have any
> questions/concerns.
> thanks,
> --
> dan
>
> 2008/1/17 <toya at riseup.net>:
>> hi,
>> thanks all who replied :) I help with sfccp as well and it will really
>> mean a lot for us this support. Another collective from imc brasil
>> network
>> also discussed this on their meeting and agreed with the proposal,
>> indymedia rio collective, maybe latter they will send this to the list.
>> Even with Sao Paulo, and maybe Rio, manifesting on this list that they
>> agree with the proposal, it doesnt means it is the intire brasil
>> indymedia
>> network. Just to clarify :) because there were no discussion between
>> all
>> the collectives and therefore no consensus on it yet.
>>
>> Maybe in a few days the other collectives will manifest and we can have
>> a
>> whole network position. :) When that comes we will make sure to forward
>> to
>> here.
>>
>> I wonder how to procedure now? should we contact finance_ at _ucimc.org? We
>> have a paypal account, would that work?
>> bye
>> toya
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi. Because of the short deadline, only a few members of the editorial
>> > collective have been able to discuss it, but we are all in favour of
>> this
>> > funding proposal.
>> > Ken Simpson
>> > for Aotearoa Indymedia
>> > www.indymedia.org.nz
>> >
>> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:16:10 PST, Sheri Herndon <sheri at speakeasy.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> hi,
>> >>
>> >> i'm speaking as an individual in support of this proposal and thank
>> >> imc-brasil for being so on top of it and responding to this
>> request.�
>> >> given that we've just received information from jason turner
>> regarding
>> >> the current funds in the global account ($53,000), i believe we are
>> in
>> >> a good place to support this proposal.� my primary reason is that
>> the
>> >> tech infrastructure is one of the things that holds the network
>> >> together and is shared across many lines.� the proposal clearly
>> >> states the multiple reasons why supporting SFCCP is supporting
>> >> multiple IMCs.
>> >>
>> >> while i am speaking as an individual and not as a member of a local
>> >> imc, i follow this list, care deeply about these issues and am
>> >> holding up the good of the whole as one of the criterion i use for
>> >> saying yes to a proposal.
>> >>
>> >> and thanks for the folks who took the time to craft such a proposal
>> >> that was clear and articulate.� that's appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> i hope others chime in, whether as individuals who are still on this
>> >> list, or as liaisons with local imcs.�
>> >>
>> >> and thanks jason for getting us the global account balance.
>> >>
>> >> peace,
>> >>
>> >> sheri
>> >> On Wed Jan 16 17:00 , Pablo Ortellado
>> >>
>> >> sent:
>> >> IMC São Paulo-Brasil says ok to the proposal.
>> >> imc-finance-request at lists.indymedia.org wrote:
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>> >> >
>> >> > Today's Topics:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. FUNDING PROPOSAL: Yearly hosting payment and help for SFCCP
>> >> > (argentina at indymedia.org)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > Message: 1
>> >> > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:45:10 -0300
>> >> > From:
>> >> > Subject: [IMC-Finance] FUNDING PROPOSAL: Yearly hosting payment
>> >> and
>> >> > help for SFCCP
>> >> > To: , "'Lista de coordinacion de
>> >> > todos los cmis de Argentina'" ,
>> >> > "'Organizational working group for San Francisco Community Colo'"
>> >> >
>> >> > Message-ID:
>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >
>> >> > PROPUESTA DE FINANCIACION: Pago anual de alojamiento y ayuda para
>> >> SFCCP
>> >> >
>> >> > Espa?ol and english below
>> >> >
>> >> > [Esp]
>> >> > 9 de Enero 2008 por todos los Indymedia alojados en los servidores
>> >> de
>> >> > Linefeed [1] y por SFCCP [2], que cumple un a?o de vida ofreciendo
>> >>
>> >> > alojamiento seguro y protegido para 26 servidores, durante un a?o.
>> >> >
>> >> > Fecha limite: 16 de Enero 2008
>> >> >
>> >> > INTRODUCCI?N CORTA.
>> >> > Esta es una propuesta de financiamiento para los servidores donde
>> >> est?n
>> >> > alojados 16 Indymedias.
>> >> > $3000 es el precio para alojar los 4 servidores por un
>> >> > a?o. Y tambi?n incluir un pedido de $2000 para ayudar a SFCCP, que
>> >> > necesita tener un poco de fondos de reserva durante un momento de
>> >> > expansi?n. SFCCP sobrevive gracias a la participaci?n y fondos
>> >> comunitarios
>> >> > para seguir manteniendo su red comunitaria.
>> >> >
>> >> > SUMARIO.
>> >> > Por mas de seis anos, voluntarios/as en San Francisco (junto con
>> >> > administradores/as de sistemas voluntarios/as de Am?rica Latina,
>> >> Europa
>> >> > y el Oriente Medio) han operado y mantenido servidores Web [3] [4]
>> >> y de
>> >> > base de datos [5] que son usados para alojar sitios de indymedia.
>> >> [3]
>> >> > Desde Octubre de 2007 tambi?n hay un nuevo servidor web [6] para
>> >> balancear
>> >> > la carga de los visitantes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Este pedido va ayudar directamente a la red Indymedia, tambi?n va
>> >> a ayudar a
>> >> > otros grupos alrededor del mundo.
>> >> > Este mes SFCCP esta celebrando su primer a?o de vida, y estuvo
>> >> creciendo
>> >> > continuamente durante todo el a?o pasado.
>> >> > Ya hay un rack y medio con servidores alojados comunitariamente y
>> >> los
>> >> > primeros d?as de Enero
>> >> > tuvieron que realizar una ampliaci?n el?ctrica para seguir
>> >> ampliando las
>> >> > demandas de expansi?n.
>> >> > SFCCP es fiscalmente solvente y autosuficiente en cuanto a los
>> >> gastos
>> >> > directos de alojamiento de servidores y el ancho de banda. Sin
>> >> embargo, los
>> >> > gastos de expansi?n requieren de una ayuda financiera y, para
>> >> esto, ellos
>> >> > conf?an en la comunidad para ayudar a pasar este momento.
>> >> >
>> >> > Durante el primer a?o, las personas que participan de SFCCP
>> >> tuvieron que
>> >> > dedicar mucho tiempo a la creaci?n de una nueva organizaci?n -
>> >> reuniones con
>> >> > abogados, creando toda la tecnolog?a, creando el sitio web,
>> >> organizaci?n de
>> >> > grupos de trabajo, etc. - todo esto no dejaba suficiente tiempo
>> >> para dedicar
>> >> > a la b?squeda de ayuda financiera de la comunidad.
>> >> >
>> >> > Entonces, durante el a?o pasado, los gastos diarios de expansi?n
>> >> han salido
>> >> > de los bolsillos de los voluntarios que ya dedican la mayor parte
>> >> de su
>> >> > tiempo para mantener este funcionando. Creemos que Indymedia, como
>> >> una
>> >> > organizaci?n, comparte los objetivos de SFCCP de crear redes
>> >> controladas por
>> >> > la comunidad, redes protegidas para la comunidad en Internet.
>> >> > Y creemos que Indymedia deber?a ayudar a una red comunitaria que
>> >> ha ayudado
>> >> > tanto a Indymedia durante los ?ltimos tiempos.
>> >> >
>> >> > Una contribuci?n como esta en este momento ayudar? a SFCCP a
>> >> cubrir sus
>> >> > gastos de expansi?n recientes y enfocarse a cumplir sus objetivos
>> >> de
>> >> > organizaci?n durante el 2008. Actualmente SFCCP tiene una lista de
>> >> espera
>> >> > para servidores que desean acceder a SFCCP mientras la expansi?n
>> >> ocurre.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > DETALLES.
>> >> > Es por eso que estamos pidiendo 5.000 USD d?lares del fondo global
>> >> para
>> >> > hacer el pago anual por los 4 servidores de Linefeed que son
>> >> utilizados
>> >> > para alojar los 16 sitios de Indymedia, incluyendo el sitio de
>> >> organizaci?n
>> >> > para sf-active, uno de las principales plataformas de CMS.
>> >> > Y como parte de una comunidad que se beneficia de una red
>> >> comunitaria como
>> >> > SFCCP, pedimos contribuir con 2.000 USD d?lares para ayudar a
>> >> nuestras/os
>> >> > compa?eras/os, que necesitan una donaci?n como esta para seguir
>> >> ampli?ndose.
>> >> >
>> >> > El dinero seria enviado a "San Francisco Community Colocation
>> >> Project", una
>> >> > entidad fiscalmente patrocinada y sin fines de lucro.
>> >> >
>> >> > Invertir en la gente que ha probado estar apoyando y siendo parte
>> >> de
>> >> > Indymedia desde hace mucho tiempo e invertir en un proyecto que
>> >> puede
>> >> > proporcionar alojamiento sostenible son dos cosas muy importantes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Nosotros creemos que seguir manteniendo estos recursos de ancho de
>> >> banda
>> >> > confiables, independientes y administrados colectivamente deben
>> >> ser una
>> >> > prioridad para Indymedia.
>> >> >
>> >> > FECHA LIMITE.
>> >> > Como SFCCP necesita este dinero para pagar la expansi?n el?ctrica
>> >> de este
>> >> > mes, la fecha l?mite para esta petici?n es el 16 de enero de 2008.
>> >> >
>> >> > Escrito por Mat de Indymedia Argentina,
>> >> > En nombre de los colectivos de Indymedia que alojan sus sitios
>> >> > en los servidores de linefeed en San Francisco.
>> >> > En nombre de SFCCP.net
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] http://www.linefeed.org [2]
>> >> > [2] http://www.sfccp.net [3]
>> >> > [3] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/StrayInfo [4]
>> >> > [4] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/BlackCatInfo [5]
>> >> > [5] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/HugoInfo [6]
>> >> > [6] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/BunkeInfo [7]
>> >> >
>> >> > Lista de Centros de Medios Independientes alojados en los
>> >> servidores de
>> >> > Linefeed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Arizona - http://arizona.indymedia.org [8]
>> >> > Argentina - http://argentina.indymedia.org [9]
>> >> > Chile - http://chile.indymedia.org [10]
>> >> > Germany mirror - http://de.indymedia.org [11]
>> >> > Hawaii - http://hawaii.indymedia.org [12]
>> >> > Houston - http://houston.indymedia.org [13]
>> >> > Istanbul / Turkey - http://istanbul.indymedia.org [14]
>> >> > Jerusalem / Palestine - http://palestine.indymedia.org [15]
>> >> > Maritimes - http://maritimes.indymedia.org [16]
>> >> > Per? - http://peru.indymedia.org [17]
>> >> > QC - http://qc.indymedia.org [18]
>> >> > Rosario - http://rosario.indymedia.org [19]
>> >> > San Francisco - http://sf.indymedia.org [20]
>> >> > Santiago de Chile - http://santiago.indymedia.org [21]
>> >> > SF-Active info site - http://sfactive.indymedia.org [22]
>> >> > South Africa - http://southafrica.indymedia.org [23]
>> >> > Thunderbay - http://thunderbay.indymedia.org [24]
>> >> > Utah - http://utah.indymedia.org [25]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ======================================================
>> >> >
>> >> > [Eng]
>> >> > January 9, 2008 by IMCs hosted on Linefeed [1] servers and
>> >> > SFCCP [2], which has been offering secure and protected
>> >> > housing for 26 servers, for over a year now.
>> >> >
>> >> > DEADLINE: January 16, 2008
>> >> >
>> >> > SHORT INTRODUCTION.
>> >> > This is a funding proposal to help with servers that host 16
>> >> Indymedia
>> >> > websites. The price to host 4 servers for one year is $3000 USD.
>> >> Also,
>> >> > we request an additional $2000 USD to help SFCCP, which needs to
>> >> have
>> >> > a portion of buffer funding during periods of expansion.SFCCP
>> >> relies
>> >> > on community participation and financing in order to maintain the
>> >> > community network.
>> >> >
>> >> > SUMMARY.
>> >> > For more than seven years, volunteers in San Francisco (with
>> >> sysadmins
>> >> > volunteer of Latin America, Europe and the Middle East) have
>> >> operated and
>> >> > supported Web servers [3] [4] and database servers [5] which are
>> >> used to
>> >> > host Indymedia websites. [3] Since October 2007, there is also a
>> >> new web
>> >> > server [6] to balance the load of the visitors.
>> >> >
>> >> > This request will directly help the Indymedia network but will
>> >> also
>> >> > help other community groups throughout the world. This month,
>> >> SFCCP
>> >> > celebrates its one year birthday and it was continually expanding
>> >> all
>> >> > of last year. There is now a rack and a half of community-hosted
>> >> > servers and in the first days of January, we had to expand our
>> >> power
>> >> > capacity to continue meeting our expansion demands. SFCCP is
>> >> fiscally
>> >> > solvent and self-sufficient in regards to the direct costs of
>> >> server
>> >> > colocation and bandwidth. However, the periodic expansion costs
>> >> > require some financial buffer and, for this, they rely on the
>> >> community
>> >> > to help us get by.
>> >> >
>> >> > For the past year, the persons who volunteer at SFCCP had to
>> >> devote so much
>> >> > time to
>> >> > creating a new organization -- meetings with lawyers, building out
>> >> our
>> >> > technology, building our website, organizing working groups, etc
>> >> -- it
>> >> > did not have enough time to devote to seeking financial assistance
>> >> > from the community. And so, for the past year, the periodic
>> >> expansion
>> >> > costs have come out of the pockets of the volunteers who are
>> >> already
>> >> > devoting a lot of their time towards making this project happen.
>> >> We
>> >> > believe that Indymedia, as an organization, shares in SFCCP's goal
>> >> of
>> >> > creating community-owned, community-protected networks on the
>> >> > internet. And we believe that Indymedia should help a community
>> >> > network in need that has provided so much to us.
>> >> >
>> >> > In particular, a contribution like this at this given time will
>> >> help
>> >> > SFCCP cover their recent expansion costs and focus on meeting
>> >> their
>> >> > organizational goals for 2008, rather than scramble around, trying
>> >>
>> >> > to finance their own expansion. Currently, SFCCP is maintaining a
>> >> > waiting list for community servers while the expansion takes
>> >> place.
>> >> >
>> >> > DETAILS.
>> >> >
>> >> > We are asking for $3000 USD from the Indymedia Global Fund for the
>> >> > annual payment of 4 Linefeed servers which are used to host 16
>> >> > Indymedia sites, including the organizational site for sf-active,
>> >> one
>> >> > of the main IMC CMS platforms. And, as a part of the community
>> >> which
>> >> > benefits from a community network like SFCCP, we are asking to
>> >> > contribute $2000 USD to help our companeros, who need a donation
>> >> like
>> >> > this to continue expanding.
>> >> >
>> >> > The money would be sent to San Francisco Community Colocation
>> >> > Projection, a fiscally-sponsored non-profit entity.
>> >> >
>> >> > Investing in the people who have proven themselves to be in this
>> >> for the
>> >> > long haul and being part of Indymedia for a lot of time and to
>> >> invest in a
>> >> > project that can provide housing sustainable are two very
>> >> important things.
>> >> >
>> >> > We believe that to continue keeping these resources of reliable
>> >> bandwidth,
>> >> > independent and administered collectivly must be a priority for
>> >> the
>> >> > Indymedia network.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > DEADLINE.
>> >> >
>> >> > Because SFCCP needs this money for the power expansion to pay this
>> >> > month, we ask that the deadline on this request by January 16,
>> >> 2008.
>> >> >
>> >> > Written by Mat from Indymedia Argentina,
>> >> > on behalf of all the IMC collectives who are hosted
>> >> > in San Francisco by Linefeed/SFCCP.
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] http://www.linefeed.org [2]
>> >> > [2] http://www.sfccp.net [3]
>> >> > [3] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/StrayInfo [4]
>> >> > [4] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/BlackCatInfo [5]
>> >> > [5] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/HugoInfo [6]
>> >> > [6] https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/BunkeInfo [7]
>> >> >
>> >> > List of Independent Media Centers hosted in the Linefeed servers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Arizona - http://arizona.indymedia.org [8]
>> >> > Argentina - http://argentina.indymedia.org [9]
>> >> > Chile - http://chile.indymedia.org [10]
>> >> > Germany mirror - http://de.indymedia.org [11]
>> >> > Hawaii - http://hawaii.indymedia.org [12]
>> >> > Houston - http://houston.indymedia.org [13]
>> >> > Istanbul / Turkey - http://istanbul.indymedia.org [14]
>> >> > Jerusalem / Palestine - http://palestine.indymedia.org [15]
>> >> > Maritimes - http://maritimes.indymedia.org [16]
>> >> > Peru - http://peru.indymedia.org [17]
>> >> > QC - http://qc.indymedia.org [18]
>> >> > Rosario - http://rosario.indymedia.org [19]
>> >> > San Francisco - http://sf.indymedia.org [20]
>> >> > Santiago de Chile - http://santiago.indymedia.org [21]
>> >> > SF-Active info site - http://sfactive.indymedia.org [22]
>> >> > South Africa - http://southafrica.indymedia.org [23]
>> >> > Thunderbay - http://thunderbay.indymedia.org [24]
>> >> > Utah - http://utah.indymedia.org [25]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> > Summary Page:
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>> >> >
>> >> > End of IMC-Finance Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2
>> >> > ******************************************
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> [24]
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>> >> [25]
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>> > https://wmail.speakeasy.net/parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.indymedia.org%2Ftwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FGlobal%2FImcFinance
>> >> [28]
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>> >>
>> > http://webmail.ihug.co.nz/parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.indymedia.org%2Fview%2FGlobal%2FImcFinance
>> >>
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