[Imc-g8-2005] Re: new project: G8 calendar 2006

Mon Aug 1 05:25:09 PDT 2005

Hia,

my focus would lie on doing something practical. Thereby i don't see a  
book as particularly necessary and would prioritise something like  
calendar, postcards, fridge magnets, or other nonsense etc.

A book sounds good though, because of people having already written  
articles and would be good if these articles  have some practical use and  
get receycled, but would rather prefer a magazine than a book.

Anyways, will first do the postcards, then try with a wallcalendar and  
then maybe get involved in anything bigger.

Also the Forest will try to get then screenprinting working so will try to  
do preferably T-shirts, my design skills are bad though if anybody else  
would like to make a proposal...

cheers Ulla

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:03:23 +0100, <zcat at ametrika.com> wrote:

>
> its all very well to say a book would be great to do
> mmm editorial decisions
>
> how long is it 100 pages less more
> mostly pictures? as to which pictures to publish how many what order also
> that means colour printing on 50 to 100 pages
> sombody to do editoring of the articles from the newswire including
> selecting, checking of facts, copyright and spellcheck
> sombody to write intro, outros and peices to join up other bits
> finding a publisher or the money to self publish
> Its a great idea but I would have thought its a full time job for 3  
> months
> ill do it can i have at least £300 per week (if its full time u gotta  
> live)
> but then there are better qualified people to do it amongst us or maybe  
> more
> deserving people to do it
> As a part time collabrative project it would take alot longer and maybe  
> by
> the next g8 it would be ready
> imho thats too late and it wasnt exactly a resounding sucess the g8  
> protests
> this year anyway bit of a damp squid, there wasnt any full on  
> police/state
> repression no heavy casulties (thankfully) and on our side no innovotive  
> new
> protest that was really effective unless you concider the clowns who  
> were a
> laugh but wound up as many protesters as police but nothing really
> eye/headline catching.
>
> Sorry to be a downer on it but i think a callender is a great idea and
> serves the purposes very well and maybe we can do it by the Anarchist
> bookfair in Oct.
>
> Andrew
>
> ps texts from the newswire could be put into the calender if there are
> really any worth putting in but i didnt see any really outstanding  
> writing.
>
>
>
>
> euan2000 at onetel.com writes:
>
>> Yes, i agree, i think a book like this would be a lovely thing to  
>> produce,
>> and i
>> suppose wouldn't be to much work, take some good postings from the
>> newswire,
>> some pics (and they wouldn't have to even be of the high quality that a
>> calender would require as the size would be much smaller!), add it all
>> together
>> with a little commentary maybe... nice one!
>>
>> un.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Without wanting to sound negative...
>>>
>>> Is there a more useful outlet to put the pictures into. I would
>>> really like to see the pictures used, but wonder if a calender is
>>> really what we want to produce! I know the Zapatistas do good
>>> calendars but our audience that big.
>>>
>>> What about a booklet of the reports /pics - an indymedia
>>> "reflections" of the G8 - something useful to the movement and still
>>> a fund raiser and nice for those that were involved... The reporting
>>> was really clear and the relections that are coming into the newswire
>>> now  really sum up a wide movement that is critical and positive.
>>>
>>> As there are already proposals around for a "reflections and book"
>>> from manchester - it could avoid being a 'where now for the movement'
>>> - more a this is actually what happened - as seen from the streets.
>>> And extended Offline...
>>>
>>> Just a thought...
>>>
>>> cheers tony
>>>
>>> At 17:41 +0100 18/7/05, ionnek wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> following Ulla's proposal to produce an indymedia fundraising calendar
>>>> for 2006
>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-fn.html,
>>>> zcats comment about "we need the dosh"
>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-83.html
>>>> and ben's worries regarding copyright of pictures posted on imc uk,
>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-dx.html
>>>>
>>>> I would like to comment:
>>>> Maybe instead of doing a pocket calendear with one or two pages per
>>>> week, which would be an awful lot of work, we could go for a 12 pages
>>>> wall calendar? Select 12 pictures (or maybe slightly more if each page
>>>> is a collage) and 12 quotes seems easier than a pocket-book type
>>>> calendear: Less material needed, less layouting needed, less
>>>> photographers and writers to chase, easier to produce.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that a fundraising calendar necessarily needs to be seen
>>>> as "commercial" in the sense of the creative commons licence used for
>>>> the pictures. After all, those who took the pictures we would include
>>>> used the imc facilities for free to publish the pictures. The  
>>>> edinburgh
>>>> media center cost us lots of money which we still have to raise. Lots  
>>>> of
>>>> people were needed to "run" this center (not even doing indymedia  
>>>> stuff,
>>>> just housekeeping), none of them was paid and many worked more than 12
>>>> hours a day. So I think it is a giving and taking between those who  
>>>> took
>>>> pictures in the streets and indymedia who provided the infrastructure.
>>>> However, it's nicer style to ask for permission or donation of a  
>>>> picture
>>>> to be included in a fundraising calendar, than just go ahead and use
>>>> them. We could try to use only pics of people we know (which in a way
>>>> would be a shame and somehow against the openness idea), and if we
>>>> really want to include pics of photographers not known to us, we could
>>>> put a call-out on the imc uk page.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> ionnek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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