[Imc-g8-2005] Re: new project: G8 calendar 2006

[zcat at ametrika.com]

its all very well to say a book would be great to do
mmm editorial decisions 

how long is it 100 pages less more
mostly pictures? as to which pictures to publish how many what order also
that means colour printing on 50 to 100 pages
sombody to do editoring of the articles from the newswire including 
selecting, checking of facts, copyright and spellcheck
sombody to write intro, outros and peices to join up other bits
finding a publisher or the money to self publish
Its a great idea but I would have thought its a full time job for 3 months
ill do it can i have at least £300 per week (if its full time u gotta live) 
but then there are better qualified people to do it amongst us or maybe more 
deserving people to do it
As a part time collabrative project it would take alot longer and maybe by 
the next g8 it would be ready
imho thats too late and it wasnt exactly a resounding sucess the g8 protests 
this year anyway bit of a damp squid, there wasnt any full on police/state 
repression no heavy casulties (thankfully) and on our side no innovotive new 
protest that was really effective unless you concider the clowns who were a 
laugh but wound up as many protesters as police but nothing really 
eye/headline catching. 

Sorry to be a downer on it but i think a callender is a great idea and 
serves the purposes very well and maybe we can do it by the Anarchist 
bookfair in Oct. 

Andrew 

ps texts from the newswire could be put into the calender if there are 
really any worth putting in but i didnt see any really outstanding writing. 

 


euan2000 at onetel.com writes: 

> Yes, i agree, i think a book like this would be a lovely thing to produce, 
> and i
> suppose wouldn't be to much work, take some good postings from the 
> newswire,
> some pics (and they wouldn't have to even be of the high quality that a
> calender would require as the size would be much smaller!), add it all 
> together
> with a little commentary maybe... nice one! 
> 
> un. 
> 
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Without wanting to sound negative... 
>> 
>> Is there a more useful outlet to put the pictures into. I would
>> really like to see the pictures used, but wonder if a calender is
>> really what we want to produce! I know the Zapatistas do good
>> calendars but our audience that big. 
>> 
>> What about a booklet of the reports /pics - an indymedia
>> "reflections" of the G8 - something useful to the movement and still
>> a fund raiser and nice for those that were involved... The reporting
>> was really clear and the relections that are coming into the newswire
>> now  really sum up a wide movement that is critical and positive. 
>> 
>> As there are already proposals around for a "reflections and book"
>> from manchester - it could avoid being a 'where now for the movement'
>> - more a this is actually what happened - as seen from the streets.
>> And extended Offline... 
>> 
>> Just a thought... 
>> 
>> cheers tony 
>> 
>> At 17:41 +0100 18/7/05, ionnek wrote:
>>> hi, 
>>> 
>>> following Ulla's proposal to produce an indymedia fundraising calendar 
>>> for 2006
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-fn.html,
>>> zcats comment about "we need the dosh"
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-83.html
>>> and ben's worries regarding copyright of pictures posted on imc uk,
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-dx.html 
>>> 
>>> I would like to comment:
>>> Maybe instead of doing a pocket calendear with one or two pages per 
>>> week, which would be an awful lot of work, we could go for a 12 pages 
>>> wall calendar? Select 12 pictures (or maybe slightly more if each page 
>>> is a collage) and 12 quotes seems easier than a pocket-book type 
>>> calendear: Less material needed, less layouting needed, less 
>>> photographers and writers to chase, easier to produce. 
>>> 
>>> I don't think that a fundraising calendar necessarily needs to be seen 
>>> as "commercial" in the sense of the creative commons licence used for 
>>> the pictures. After all, those who took the pictures we would include 
>>> used the imc facilities for free to publish the pictures. The edinburgh 
>>> media center cost us lots of money which we still have to raise. Lots of 
>>> people were needed to "run" this center (not even doing indymedia stuff, 
>>> just housekeeping), none of them was paid and many worked more than 12 
>>> hours a day. So I think it is a giving and taking between those who took 
>>> pictures in the streets and indymedia who provided the infrastructure.
>>> However, it's nicer style to ask for permission or donation of a picture 
>>> to be included in a fundraising calendar, than just go ahead and use 
>>> them. We could try to use only pics of people we know (which in a way 
>>> would be a shame and somehow against the openness idea), and if we 
>>> really want to include pics of photographers not known to us, we could 
>>> put a call-out on the imc uk page. 
>>> 
>>> best
>>> ionnek 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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