[Imc-g8-2005] Re: new project: G8 calendar 2006

Tue Aug 2 07:38:04 PDT 2005

Actually, I think writings should go in a pamphlet and maybe then we could  
add black and white photographies.

We could ask AK press to publish it.

Pamphlets are not that difficult nor workintensive and though the quality  
might be lower, the price is lower, too, and it is not quite an official  
release.

If we would like to release a printed magazine we could ask Clydeside  
Press, they are excellent.
However, book printing prices are astronomically high especially if they  
contain colour pictures, so without funding  I would not recommend that.

cheerio Ulla

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:26:21 +0100, <resonate at spc.org> wrote:

> Hi all
> I dont necessarily think that these ideas are incompatable.  There has
> been some positive mutterings of either an extended offline, or a more
> collaborative project with regional indymedias.
> As to smthing in the shape of a book - i think that maybe one leap
> further... and one more problematic at that which needs much more
> discussion.
>
> I do agree however that a more in depth piece of work in a reflection
> 'style' would be very worthwhile - as and i said - not incompatable.  In
> fact if those wanting to do a calander want to focus more on pictures and
> quotes, that a booklet of some 12 pages or is already a third of the way
> there!
>
> A postive topic with which to discuss at the next meeting.
>
> ./resonate
>
>
>>
>> its all very well to say a book would be great to do
>> mmm editorial decisions
>>
>> how long is it 100 pages less more
>> mostly pictures? as to which pictures to publish how many what order  
>> also
>> that means colour printing on 50 to 100 pages
>> sombody to do editoring of the articles from the newswire including
>> selecting, checking of facts, copyright and spellcheck
>> sombody to write intro, outros and peices to join up other bits
>> finding a publisher or the money to self publish
>> Its a great idea but I would have thought its a full time job for 3  
>> months
>> ill do it can i have at least Â£300 per week (if its full time u gotta
>> live)
>> but then there are better qualified people to do it amongst us or maybe
>> more
>> deserving people to do it
>> As a part time collabrative project it would take alot longer and maybe  
>> by
>> the next g8 it would be ready
>> imho thats too late and it wasnt exactly a resounding sucess the g8
>> protests
>> this year anyway bit of a damp squid, there wasnt any full on  
>> police/state
>> repression no heavy casulties (thankfully) and on our side no innovotive
>> new
>> protest that was really effective unless you concider the clowns who  
>> were
>> a
>> laugh but wound up as many protesters as police but nothing really
>> eye/headline catching.
>>
>> Sorry to be a downer on it but i think a callender is a great idea and
>> serves the purposes very well and maybe we can do it by the Anarchist
>> bookfair in Oct.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ps texts from the newswire could be put into the calender if there are
>> really any worth putting in but i didnt see any really outstanding
>> writing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> euan2000 at onetel.com writes:
>>
>>> Yes, i agree, i think a book like this would be a lovely thing to
>>> produce,
>>> and i
>>> suppose wouldn't be to much work, take some good postings from the
>>> newswire,
>>> some pics (and they wouldn't have to even be of the high quality that a
>>> calender would require as the size would be much smaller!), add it all
>>> together
>>> with a little commentary maybe... nice one!
>>>
>>> un.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Without wanting to sound negative...
>>>>
>>>> Is there a more useful outlet to put the pictures into. I would
>>>> really like to see the pictures used, but wonder if a calender is
>>>> really what we want to produce! I know the Zapatistas do good
>>>> calendars but our audience that big.
>>>>
>>>> What about a booklet of the reports /pics - an indymedia
>>>> "reflections" of the G8 - something useful to the movement and still
>>>> a fund raiser and nice for those that were involved... The reporting
>>>> was really clear and the relections that are coming into the newswire
>>>> now  really sum up a wide movement that is critical and positive.
>>>>
>>>> As there are already proposals around for a "reflections and book"
>>>> from manchester - it could avoid being a 'where now for the movement'
>>>> - more a this is actually what happened - as seen from the streets.
>>>> And extended Offline...
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought...
>>>>
>>>> cheers tony
>>>>
>>>> At 17:41 +0100 18/7/05, ionnek wrote:
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> following Ulla's proposal to produce an indymedia fundraising  
>>>>> calendar
>>>>> for 2006
>>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-fn.html,
>>>>> zcats comment about "we need the dosh"
>>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-83.html
>>>>> and ben's worries regarding copyright of pictures posted on imc uk,
>>>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-g8-2005/2005-July/0717-dx.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to comment:
>>>>> Maybe instead of doing a pocket calendear with one or two pages per
>>>>> week, which would be an awful lot of work, we could go for a 12 pages
>>>>> wall calendar? Select 12 pictures (or maybe slightly more if each  
>>>>> page
>>>>> is a collage) and 12 quotes seems easier than a pocket-book type
>>>>> calendear: Less material needed, less layouting needed, less
>>>>> photographers and writers to chase, easier to produce.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think that a fundraising calendar necessarily needs to be  
>>>>> seen
>>>>> as "commercial" in the sense of the creative commons licence used for
>>>>> the pictures. After all, those who took the pictures we would include
>>>>> used the imc facilities for free to publish the pictures. The
>>>>> edinburgh
>>>>> media center cost us lots of money which we still have to raise. Lots
>>>>> of
>>>>> people were needed to "run" this center (not even doing indymedia
>>>>> stuff,
>>>>> just housekeeping), none of them was paid and many worked more than  
>>>>> 12
>>>>> hours a day. So I think it is a giving and taking between those who
>>>>> took
>>>>> pictures in the streets and indymedia who provided the  
>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>> However, it's nicer style to ask for permission or donation of a
>>>>> picture
>>>>> to be included in a fundraising calendar, than just go ahead and use
>>>>> them. We could try to use only pics of people we know (which in a way
>>>>> would be a shame and somehow against the openness idea), and if we
>>>>> really want to include pics of photographers not known to us, we  
>>>>> could
>>>>> put a call-out on the imc uk page.
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>> ionnek
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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