[imc-baghdad] Web site

[Julia]

In the short time I spent, a month before the war.  I met two Internet hackers that I know about.  One who was determinedly publishing 'Where is RAED?'  At a time when it could had serious conscequences.

I have the sense that as soon as there is a chance, and colleges reopend with their PCs running again.   I am sure Internet Cafes will appear quickly, that access will no be an issue for long, it could become one of the most widely used vehicles for debate inside the country.  

I honestly don't think we are pushing something on this group at least...  I am also guessing most young Iraqi's will be happy with this idea, and they are the majority.

Perhaps someone for the group could write something about this Ramzi?

Julia

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Stern [mailto:expectresistance at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2003 01:24 AM
>To: imc-baghdad at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re:  [imc-baghdad] Web site
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>someone who has more experience with the new imc process can probably 
>give a more detailed explanation on the ins and outs of this, but 
>basically it boils down to them needing to start the application 
>process to become a new imc.  as far as i know, its pretty much as 
>simple as them reading through the principles of unity and deciding 
>as a group if they agree with them and then applying.  i think this 
>could be expedited by the new imc working group pretty quickly due to 
>the situation.  all the info about starting the process is at: 
>http://newimc.indymedia.org/  ramzi, can you get all this info to 
>them?  the quicker they do this, the quicker there will be a site, 
>and this also means the quicker they can request funding from the 
>global imc pot.  as stated before, i think it will be difficult for 
>global imc finance to decide to fund them if they haven't become an 
>imc yet.     but i think its pretty likely that once they start the 
>process people all over the world in the indymedia network will want 
>this to be funded, and funded quickly.  actually i think its pretty 
>clear that people from all over the world want to see this funded 
>anyway, but the issue is that there is fear of outsiders pushing an 
>imc on them, (which has happened before during convergences where 
>there are alot of internationals, and then once they all left there 
>was a hole that was difficult for locals to fill).  it just needs to 
>be clear that this is a local initiative. i think its clear that the 
>newspaper is a local initiative, but i think that the application 
>process for a new imc has to begin, so that they know for sure that 
>this is the avenue they want to pursue.
>
>does that make sense?  maybe sascha or someone else can give a more 
>detailed answer or correct anything i'm wrong about.
>
>andy
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>>I may be a lot naive on why the site can't be given an IMC address. 
>>Who makes the decisions
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>>There are very good reasons why the server can't be in Baghdad and 
>>that is through no fault of the group.  I am quite sure.. knowing 
>>some of them, that the very first chance they have it will be IMC 
>>Baghdad.    & It is an open forum for publishing..
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>>Perhaps someone could offer a REALLY good explanation why not.  They 
>>are not a business web site either (dot com indeed)
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>>Julia
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>>>-----Original Message-----
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>>>From: christopher mitchell [mailto:chrismi at frontiernet.net]
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>>>Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2003 08:52 PM
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>>>To: imc-baghdad at lists.indymedia.org
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>>>Subject: Re: [imc-baghdad] Web site
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>>>>Web address: As you can see, I am currently using dyndns which is a free
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>>>>service, probably based in the US.  If there is a consensus to proceed with
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>>>>the site, then I will make the request for baghdad.indymedia.org [have I got
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>>>>that right?] but I can't say how long this will take.
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>>>
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>>>Excellent - thank you for setting this up Mike.
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>>>
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>>>I can assure you that will not get baghdad.indymedia.org anytime soon - as
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>>>there is no IMC in Baghdad and will not be for some time....I think any
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>>>attempt to get that DNS entry created will be blocked (for reasons I would
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>>>agree with ... namely that it is not an IMC)
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>>>
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>>>But - no reason we cannot move ahead.  I would suggest we register a dot
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>>>com name first ... I suggest we name it after the paper as Ramzi suggested.
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>>>I have just registered the name
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>>>Al-Muajaha
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>>>as
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>>>www.almuajaha.com
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>>>So we can use that unless someone has a better idea.
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>>>
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>>>Mike - email me privately the IP I should point this site at...
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>>>--christopher
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