[Imc-london-audio] stories for 10 May show

[Douglas Carnall]

Hi,

Text of stories for tomorrow's shows follows:

Let me know if anyone's got anything else.

In the studio, I hope, new egg Kat and Manu with the cycling weather!

D.

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CASMII

Top physicists from the Campaign against sanctions and military action
in Iran delivered a letter to Prime Minister this week urging him to
commit the UK to resolve all outstanding issues regarding the Iranian
nuclear programme in a peaceful manner. In particular they asked him to
rule out the option of using tactical nuclear strikes against Iran. 

The thirteen signatories, including five Nobel laureates noted the
recent reports that the Pentagon is actively considering the use of
tactical nuclear weapons against Iran's nuclear facilities.

They write: 

"1800 of our fellow physicists have joined in a petition opposing new US
nuclear weapons policies that open the door to the use of nuclear
weapons in situations such as Iran's. These policies represent a
"radical departure from the past", in the words of Linton Brooks,
National Nuclear Security Administration director. 

Indeed, since the end of World War II, US policy has considered nuclear
weapons "weapons of last resort", to be used only when the very survival
of the nation or of an allied nation was at stake, or at most in cases
of extreme military necessity. Instead, the new US nuclear weapons
policies have significantly lowered the threshold for the potential use
of nuclear weapons, as clearly evidenced by the fact that they are being
considered as another tool in the toolbox to destroy underground
installations that are "too deep" to be destroyed by conventional weapons.

This is a major and dangerous shift in the rationale for nuclear
weapons. In the words of the late Joseph Rotblat, Nobel Peace Prize
recipient for his efforts to prevent nuclear war, "the danger of this
policy can hardly be over-emphasized". Nuclear weapons are unique among
weapons of mass destruction: they unleash the enormous energy stored in
the tiny nucleus of an atom, an energy that is a million times larger
than that stored in the rest of the atom. The nuclear explosion releases
an immense amount of blast energy and thermal and nuclear radiation,
with deadly immediate and delayed effects on the human body. Over
100,000 human beings died in the Hiroshima blast, and nuclear weapons in
today's arsenals have a total yield of over 200,000 Hiroshima bombs.

Using or even merely threatening to use a nuclear weapon preemptively
against a nonnuclear adversary tells the 182 non-nuclear-weapon
countries signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that their
adherence to the treaty offers them no protection against a nuclear
attack by a nuclear nation. Many are thus likely to abandon the treaty,
and the nuclear non-proliferation framework will be damaged even further
than it already has, with disastrous consequences for the security of
the United States and the world.

There are no sharp lines between small "tactical" nuclear weapons and
large ones, nor between nuclear weapons targeting facilities and those
targeting armies or cities. Nuclear weapons have not been used for 60
years. Once the US uses a nuclear weapon again, it will heighten the
probability that others will too. In a world with many more nuclear
nations and no longer a "taboo" against the use of nuclear weapons,
there will be a greatly enhanced risk that regional conflicts could
expand into global nuclear war, with the potential to destroy our
civilization. It is gravely irresponsible for the U.S. as the greatest
superpower to consider courses of action that could eventually lead to
the widespread destruction of life on the planet."

They urge George W. Bush to announce publicly that the U.S. is taking
the nuclear option off the table in the case of all nonnuclear
adversaries, present or future, and we urge the people to make their
voices heard on this matter."

Jack Straw was invited to join world-renowned scientists and former
military generals in a delegation to Downing Street opposing military
intervention in Iran. It is reported that his opposition to any military
action against Iran was the reason for his demotion from his position as
Foreign Secretary in the recent reshuffle. His successor Margaret
Beckett has refused to repeat her predecessor's insistence that military
action against Iran was inconceivable. 

US public opinion seems against military action: in a survey by Opinion
Research Corporation released by CNN, 63 per cent of respondents think
the U.S. should resort to economic and diplomatic efforts, but not take
military action.

There were also actions against military action in Iran in Edinburgh,
where 70 activists gathered to hear speeches at the foot of the mound,
and in Bath where 30 activists staged die-ins in the town centre. One
protestor was inappropriately harassed by police, but despite this it is
reported "a good day was had by all, and the start of Bath's opposition
to the next round of the war on terror has begun."



For more see: http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/ and the
indymedia.org.uk website.

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EDO (+phone int we hope)

It's been a good week for the Smash EDO protestors, who won a final
victory in the High Court after a year long battle against EDO's attempt
to restrict their protests outside their Brighton factory. The company
make missile control systems. The case is estimated to have cost the
company upwards of £1 million and this week US parent company
EDO Corp announced 2.7 million dollars losses this
year and citing losses from legal actions as a
contributing factor. EDO MBM will pay the protesters
costs, expected to be tens of thousands of pounds.

 Big questions remain over the handling of the case.
What has come to light is a behind-the-scenes deal
between EDO MBM, their lawyer Timothy Lawson
Cruttenden (the solicitor responsible for the
injunction restricting protests outside the Oxford
Primate Lab), Sussex Police and possibly the National
Extremism Tactical Co-ordinating Unit.



EDO brought the injunction claim against 14 protesters
and two protest groups in April 2005, and by bringing
spurious evidence into the case were able to get an
interim injunction against all protesters (i.e any
member of the public campaigning outside the factory,
regardless of their conduct).

The defendants argued consistently that the use of the
Protection from Harassment Act to restrict protest
infringed their rights under articles 10 and 11 of the
ECHR. This was
dramatically illustrated by the imprisonment on remand
of two protesters for alleged breaches of the
injunction last summer. Both cases were subsequently
dropped before reaching court. Protesters were placed
under threat of five years imprisonment for any breach
of the injunction terms that prohibited simple acts
such as standing in the road.

Andrew Beckett press spokesman for SMASH EDO said, 'We
were accused of harassment by EDO, and Sussex Police,
who secured an interim injunction on trumped-up
evidence, but it must be clear to the world after the
collapse of the injunction and the dropping of so many
criminal cases that we are ones who
have been
harassed, and it is they in who have been harassing
us'.


Press Contact: Andrew Beckett or Sarah Johnson
07875 708873 

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Leal

When 30 police raided Ernesto Leal's London home on Mayday to cart him
off to Belmarsh Detention Centre it was not the safety of the public
that was being protected but the Home Secretary's career, as Labour
pulls out all the stops to show how tough it is on immigration and crime
in fear that its losing working class voters to the BNP. Ernesto's
family fled Chile in the 1970s to escape Pinochet's coup, arriving in
Scotland where they were adopted by the Fife mining community and became
active in social justice struggles. Ernesto grew up and made his home in
Britain and has a UK passport.

In 2004 he was convicted of grievous bodily harm, his first and only
offence, as a result of a racially motivated pub brawl. Now Ernesto
faces deportation to Jamaica - a country he has never visited or had any
connection with. Ernesto's sister Sonia told SchNEWS, "Ernesto did
commit a crime, which he served his time for in an open prison because
he was not considered a threat to the public. No reason has been given
as to why he would be deported to Jamaica."

Ernesto's family are asking people to contact their MP and the Home
Office (phone 0208 196 0942 fax 0208 196 0930) asking why Ernesto Leal
(reference L306526) is being deported.

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ESF

Clashes between anarchists and the police broke out during the 4th ESF
which was held in Athens this weekend past.  For a period of three hours
following a 2km route anarchists attacked banks, large department
stores, police cars, government buildings, the police headquarters, riot
police, riot police buses as well as "Z-team" policemen (they ride
motorcycles).

A few hours before the European social forum march took place; the
anarchists who were participating at the libertarian-anarchists forum
made a separate march of at least 2500 people. Among them were comrades
from Spain and Italy. Since the anarchists were not part of the ESF they
decided to disperse their bloc near the ESF march so that anyone who was
willing to march near or with the ESF could do it without making the
anarchists' presence "official". Another big group of anarchists who
were near the ESF people joined the initial group. They broke up into
smaller groups of 400 -500 people and even before the ESF march had
started they started targeting the police headquarters and several
banks. As they moved on they attacked the US embassy, the Hilton hotel,
the Italian embassy, and the riot police guarding the house of
parliament and as they reached the central Athens square they attacked
the McDonalds restaurant and several department stores.

Despite some complaints made by the leftists participating in the ESF
march, for disrupting their colourful peaceful march it is fair to say
that with the exception of the police HQs all the other attacks took
place at least 500m from the ESF crowd and most of the ESF people were
hardly affected by the riots.

20 people were arrested 17 of them are charged with multiple felony charges.


In its closing declaration the ESF noted the significant number of
social struggles and campaigns that have been successful in stopping
neoliberal projects such as the proposed European Constitution Treaty,
the EU Ports Directive, and the CPE in France, the growing opposition to
neoliberalism and the increasing power of trans-national corporations,
the G8 and organizations such as the WTO, the IMF and the World Bank, as
well the neo-liberal policies of the states and the European Union. It
also recognised the important political changes that have materialized
in Latin America to reverse the privatization process.


They declared: "Although the EU is one of the richest areas of the
world, tens of millions of people are living in poverty, either because
of mass unemployment or the casualization of labour. The policies of the
EU based on the unending extension of competition within and outside
Europe constitute an attack on employment, workers and welfare rights,
public services, education, the health system and so on. The EU is
planning the reduction of workers' wages and employment benefits as well
as the generalization of casualisation.


We reject this neo-liberal Europe and any efforts to re-launch the
rejected Constitutional Treaty; we are fighting for another Europe, a
feminist, ecological, open Europe, a Europe of peace, social justice,
sustainable life, food sovereignty and solidarity, respecting
minorities' right and the self-determination of peoples."

The ESF promised to continue to mobilize for a complete withdrawal of
troops from Iraq and Afganistan, against the threat of a new war in
Iran, against the occupation of Palestine, for nuclear disarmament, to
eliminate military bases in Europe and we call for a week of action from
23 to 30 September 2006.


The forum also appealed for a international day of action and
mobilization the 7th of October 2006 in Europe and Africa, for a
European unconditional legalization and equal rights to all migrants;
for the closure of all detention centers in Europe, for the stop to
externalization, for the stop to deportations; against the
precariousness and for the uncoupling of the link between resident
permit and the labor contract, for a residence citizenship.

In January 2007, the ESF will meet in Nairobi, the location reflecting
the growth of the African social movements and the opportunity to fight
against European exploitation and neo-colonialism, and plans actions in
Rostock, Germany where the European Union Council and G8 at Rostock in
Germany plan to meet in June 2007.

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Colnbrook

At Sunday lunchtime in Colnbrook detention centre near Heathrow an
Algerian inmate got into an argument with the manager on duty, over the
amount of food he was entitled to, and the manager resorted to some
physical contact to make his point. The inmate resented this seemingly
bullying attitude of the manager and refused to pay any further
attention to the manager. Instead he stopped any further argument with
the manager and insisted d manager stop shoving him. The manager tried
to force him to leave the cafe counter, but he insisted he would not
leave without his lunch,at dis d manager called 4 additional officers,on
his comm. unit.

The inmate, collected his lunch and walked into his room,without any
further comment. when the officers came to take him to solitary
confinement (the block),he left his lunch, got up without a word and
with no argument followed the manager, and 4 other officers out of the
connecting door in the wing. When they had taken him out, and locked d
door, the manager and officers started to beat him.

One of the fellow Algerian inmates got so irate at this treatment
because the inmate had not resisted at all, and he started banging on
the door, in anger and frustration at seeing the beating his friend was
recieving. 2 other Algerians joined in and the remaining officers called
in some more reinforcements. Six of the DCOs descended heavily on the
single Algerian still banging on the door, forcing his hands behind his
back, and puttin him in a choke hold with an arm around his neck. When
they brought him to the ground, most inmates who were looking on, heard
his arm break,and his resultant SCREAM was what really incited all other
participants in the fracas.

The injustice of 6 men beating, choking, one man and an additional 5
DCOs,fighting the remaining 2 Algerians was too much. Trays, plates of
food, the tray rack, cutlery, and almost everything that wasn't nailed
down was used on the officers, who then dragged the injured Algerian
thru the connecting door,and sealed off the cafeteria point. The whole
wing was sealed off with only the female officers left behind, until the
inmates had been calmed down by the other non-violent inmates.

The remaining detainees who had not collected their lunch were starved
till dinner time. At 11pm, (after the final lockdown at 9.45p.m,) over a
dozen inmates who had taken part in the riot were arrested for
incitement, and other drummed up charges. These arrests were carried out
with an officer recording the process with a camcorder.

The Home Office issued the following statement yesterday: 

"We can confirm that an incident of disruptive behaviour occurred at
Colnbrook at lunchtime on Sunday 07.05.06. Calm was quickly restored
and no incidents have occurred since.

"During the incident, approved control techniques were used to move
one detainee to temporary confinement. A further 9 detainees were
also removed from association or placed in temporary confinement
following the incident.

"As a result of the incident, police are investigating an assault on
a detention custody officer. It would not be appropriate to comment
further while this investigation is ongoing.

"We treat our duty of care towards detainees with the utmost seriousness.

"Every report of or allegation of inappropriate treatment against
detainees is reported to the centre's (HO) contract monitor, and an
investigation into each allegation will take place. Where there is an
allegation of assault or inappropriate use of force, we also
automatically refer the case to the police for investigation. There
has been no such allegation arising from this incident.

"A comprehensive complaints system is in place at all centres, and
detainees also have the provision to raise complaints both
anonymously or in person and in confidence to the Independent
Monitoring Boards who can raise complaints on behalf of detainees. 

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Haw

The British government won its appeal against brian haw's peace protest.
The verdict was read out at the royal courts of justice on Monday.

Brian Haw has camped outside parliament for nearly five years as a
reminder of their genocidal war-mongering, has been told today that he
will have to seek police permission to hold any further demonstration,
and that they are likely to impose conditions.

The serious organised crime and police act came into force on the 1st
august last year, section 132 of which requires any person intending to
hold a demonstration near parliament to seek authorisation from the
police and to adhere to any conditions that the police may apply.

But Brian won a court case in july last year quashing some provisions of
the act, on the basis that it could not be applied retrospectively to
his continuing demonstration that had started in june 2001. Since august
1st his demonstration has been the ONLY one that has not needed police
permission. however, the home sec and the met appealed against this
decision, and today's verdict was the response to that appeal.

The appeal has been allowed, which means that section 132 of the Serious
Organised Crime and Police Act DOES apply to Brian Haw. Costs have been
set aside and brian will not be made to pay any costs. Permission to
appeal to the house of lords has been refused REFUSED, as has any
permission to stay in parliament square pending any petition to the lords.

Brian is not prevented from petitioning the lords himself, but he is now
subject to the socpa act until any further future judgement.

Brian himself was not in court this morning, preferring to continue his
demonstration against government policy in iraq, against the use of
depleted uranium which will poison the land and the people for millions
of years, against the wholesale looting of the country by big business,
against the abuse of civilians, women and children, and against the lies
that this government and the mainstream media told and continue to tell.

Once the verdict was announced, the press pack moved in on brian, and
asked their usual facile questions. he tried to get his real message
across, not pandering to their soundbite mentality, and berating them
for asking pointless questions.

He also told us that he had known the outcome of this verdict for the
past week but would have been in contempt of court to divulge it - so he
was not actually surprised on Monday.

Meanwhile, other seasoned demonstrators and anti-socpa campaigners
seized the opportunity of press coverage to launch their own messages
about the need for a real movement to recover the civil rights that are
being stolen from us month by month under this government. police had
obviously been told to act very softly softly while the media were
there, and turned a blind eye even to the use of a megaphone, which is
banned under socpa legislation.

Brian's solicitor, Steve Grosz, from Bindmans, stated that they had now
notified the police that Brian would be staying in the square for the
foreseeable future.

Under the act, the police will HAVE to give permission for brian's demo,
but they may impose conditions which are set out in the act as follows:
"if the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and circumstances in which any public assembly is being held or is
intended to be held, reasonably believes that
a) it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to property
or serious disruption to the life of the community, or
b) the purpose of the persons organising it is the intimidation of
others with a view to compelling them not to do an act they have a right
to do, or to do an act they have a right not to do,

he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking part
in the assembly such conditions as to the place at which the assembly
may be (or continue to be) held, its maximum duration, or the maximum
number of persons who may constitute it, as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation.

This means there is a possibility that police may impose time
restrictions on brian's protest, and thus might require him to remove
his extensive fixed banner display. it is unclear yet what their
response will be.

It is understood senior met officers were meeting at 12.30 to debate
these issues and will be contacting Steve from Bindmans with some
information later. At present, and certainly while the cameras are
there, the police have no intention of wading in and removing his
presence, but under cover of darkness who knows...........?

The night after the verdict police passed through the square in vehicles
regularly throughout the night, including an encircling forward
intelligence team, so there was a feeling of surveillance, but otherwise
brian was left alone.

An indymedia journalist was hassled by community support officers when
he tried to film them moving on a homeless woman at about 2.30 on
Tuesday morning. In a bout of 'little hitler syndrome' they threatened
him under section 44 of the terrorism act, but soon backed down
presumably under police instruction. (These poor misguided folk only get
a few weeks training before going on the beat in their nice uniforms, so
they can't be expected to understand the intricacies of every modern law!)

Despite the daily mail's crowing "gone at last", the situation is that
he is still there for the time being at least, and intends to remain
indefinitely while the next rounds of legal argument continue.

The anti-socpa campaigning picnics will continue every sunday in
parliament square and all are invited - bring ideas and food to share.
they start around 1.30 every week and all are welcome.
more info on these can be found at www.peopleincommon.org

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Woza

The final 105 demonstrators from the group Women of Zimbabwe Arise
(WOZA) were released on Monday following a demonstration demanding
affordable education for all. Bulawayo police arrested 112 adults and 73
children last Thursday, including eight mothers with infants in arms.
Painkillers were denied at Hillside Police Station until a lawyer and
the Officer-in-Charge from Bulawayo
Central (a 15 minute drive away) came and insisted they be allowed to be
given to the women, some of them elderly, who were in pain from having
to lie on concrete floors for two days, though it was cold at night.
With their release, it has emerged that amongst the group detained for
the last
five days was a seven-month pregnant woman and a physically disabled man.


Despite the ordeal of the Bulawayo group their sisters in Harare took to
the streets at 1pm on Monday afternoon to continue the demand for
affordable education for all. Approximately 200 women and 10 children
marched from Nelson Mandela Avenue to Kwame Nkrumah Ave. Singing,
carrying placards reading amongst others, mothers demand their
children's right to education" and handing out flyers, the group passed
several soldiers outside Parliament before stopping outside the offices
of the Ministry of Education. There they left copies of the Woza Moya
newsletter, which lists WOZA's demands to the government, before
dispersing. There have been no reports of arrests so far.

After a difficult five days, WOZA declares a victory for those
Zimbabweans who are prepared to stand up and be counted. We also salute
the spirit of the women and men who withstood harassment and
intimidation by police to defend their children's rights. We especially
want to pay tribute to the 73 children arrested for defending their own
rights. Their courage is an example to us all. The campaign for
affordable education for all is not over however. Until the astronomical
school fee increases have been reversed, WOZA will continue to apply
pressure. We invite all those Zimbabweans who have chosen to say NO to
passive acceptance of intimidation and humiliation to join us in
demanding an end to these increases.

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Korea

Now we've already covered the actions of villagers in Daechuri who are
resisting the expansion of the US Camp Humphreys military base on their
land. Since Thursday the village has been blockaded by police and the
military, and at least 400 people have been injured and 524 arrested.
The three days of violence has prompted criticism of the police force's
conduct during the eviction. Human rights advisors to the National
Police Agency described the scene as a "blood bath", and an
"embarrassing moment" for the national government.

On May 4th, around 13,000 riot police, 1,500 hired 'workers' (notorious
ex-military strikebreakers) and 2,000 Korean soldiers invaded the
village and overran the fields. Some 100 protestors attempted to block
their advance, but were beaten and pushed towards the school. While the
protesters were barricaded inside the school grounds, troops erected
some 30 kilometers of triple strand 'Concertina wire' around the rice
fields and set up military tents, toilet facilities and sandbag road
blocks around the village. The riot police charged the school grounds,
forcing protesters into the primary school. Shooting water cannons,
throwing stones, and beating people with shields and batons, they
swarmed across the lines of defense and into the school. After a massive
battle for the first floor, protestors moved to the second floor,
sitting with arms linked. Others occupied the roof of the school to
prevent helicopters from deploying troops onto the roof. The riot police
slowly made their way to the second floor and began removing and
arresting the protestors, one by one.
Having cleared the primary school, the MND demolished the school and the
playground. By nightfall, the primary school, the headquarters for
organizing and the symbol of Daechuri's resistance, was a pile of
smoldering rubble. The children's playground equipment lay mangled and
blackened on the ground and surrounding trees were flattened. Over 400
people were arrested that day and hundreds injured.

On May 5th, several dozen elderly farmers and a handful of supporters
gathered in a quiet vigil. Around one-hundred riot police marched
through the village to arrest the remaining villagers. Their advance was
halted by a few village women and some supporters who stood in front of
the riot police shields, refusing to let them pass. After a tense
standoff, the police relented.

Between 1,000 to 1,500 supporters marched across the fields, over the
barbed wire fences and through the police roadblocks into the village.
Gathering in the ruins of the primary school, they demonstrated through
the village and upon reaching the fields, suddenly charged the barbed
wire. Soldiers who were guarding the wire were taken by surprise and
overwhelmed. Some people dismantled the fences, others tore apart the
military tents and tossed the contents into the muddy fields. Riot
police were sent to the scene and began arresting people. A several hour
standoff ensued. As night fell, the protesters fled to seek shelter in
the woods, abandoned homes, and farm sheds. Police began making door to
door searches, and arrested anyone who they found on the streets. A
military enforced curfew was declared for Daechuri and the surrounding
areas. Anyone leaving their homes was subject to arrest. No one was
allowed to enter or leave the village.
Outrage at the actions of the police has sparked solidarity rallies in
the capitol, Seoul. Over a thousand people demonstrated in solidarity on
March 6th. International support is urgently needed.

Besides community displacement, other concerns of base expansion are the
detrimental environmental impact of U.S. bases, the violent crimes
committed by US troops stationed here, the massive issue of human
trafficking and forced prostitution which surrounds the bases, the
U.S.'s arrogant and aggressive foreign policy that threatens to derail
Korean reunification and destabilize Northeast Asia, the undermining of
local economies through Free Trade Agreements, and a variety of other
issues of national sovereignty.

Daechuri is only one of many communities jeopardized by upcoming
military realignment. Besides the expansion of Osan Airforce base and
Camp Humphreys, Korean government and business investors have planned a
massive development project that connect the two U.S. bases and
supplement the influx of people. Named in various contexts an
"International Peace City" and an "International Business City", this
relatively unknown project will create even more displacement than the
military base expansions. For more information and updates see:
www.savePTfarmers.org

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Cyprus

150 Cyprus asylum seekers gathered yesterday at Eleftheria Square in
Nicosia as early as 7am counting the hours till 5pm when they planned to
gather outside the presidential palace.

Some demonstrators carried banners and placards saying: "Migrants are
not a problem - the problem is racism", "No more silence... We are fed up"
and "Stop arrests and deportation", "Change migration policy now".
The protest was organised by immigrant support group, KISA, as show of
support for immigrants' imprisoned for months, as well as the living
conditions of political asylum seekers. They are expected to live on
meagre wages from restricted employment and rents and amenities bills
are high.

Many are fleeing the war in Iraq.

At around 4.30pm the protestors started making their way on foot to the
presidential palace where KISA president Doros Polycarpou and two
immigrant representatives met with Undersecretary to the President
Christodoulos Pashardis, demanding the immediate release of all
political asylum seekers who have been held in prison for long periods
of time. They are being held illegally according to the refugee laws of
Cyprus which states that if they cannot be deported then they must be
granted temporary protection on humanitarian grounds.

The asylum seekers want to work and demanded the right to work to
provide the necessary food for their children, and for a change in
housing policy to improve their living conditions, and an end to
mistreatment and discrimination by police, who the protesters say
systematically abuse them

Outside the presidential palace the normally two-lane road was reduced
to one-lane traffic causing some congestion as the demonstrators chanted
slogans demanding their rights. Police directed traffic to limit
inconveniencing motorists and other officers stood around to ensure the
situation remained peaceful.

Representatives of the asylum seekers met with deputy president
Pashardis who assured them he would pass on their demands to Cypriot
President Tassos Papadopoulos. The presidential palace representative
said the government was well aware of the problem and that all
ministries involved in the issue would be sent a copy of the asylum
seekers demands. They were then to go home and wait for an official response.
The asylum seekers refused to go home and decided to wait for their
answer in Eleftheria Square, where they plan to remain for as long as it
takes.

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+ audio from IMEMC (6:41) + phone int with Pennie

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Cheers

D.

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