[Imc-london] london minutes 07/11/07

[maqui]

Hello and cheers tony for the minutes

On Thursday, November 8, 2007, at 03:05  pm, cactus at zetnet.co.uk wrote:

> • We raised a healthy amount at the bookfair after the costs were paid
> (including table/printing/stock etc) and
> chatted a while about what this could be spent on. We thought a good 
> slice
> of the London account should be held
> back for development and launch of the new site

Yeah, I'd like to be able to dispose of some dosh when we are ready to 
go live with the new site. The mains reason being that I think it will 
need quite a lot of publicity, plus I think we should also organise 
some sort of launch / exhibition / party event, and this costs money.

>  but we could offer to pay
> off the G8 debt still sitting in the UK
> account (usual grumbles about why us etc as we paid the rest!) This 
> stands
> at £179.60 debt - although we thought it
> was around £250 - so will propose here we send £250 to clear the debt 
> and
> have £70 in the account for network
> use.

Well, it is true that London imc can afford this now, but it is also 
true that the network seems to rely on the London kollective to come up 
with whatever funds may be needed. I don't think that it should be too 
difficult for the network to raise collectively the sum of £179. I 
don't know, but I'm a bit uneasy with the underwritten expectation that 
the London folk will always come up with the goods. Anyway, I just 
wanted to make the point for the record,  but if the meeting decided to 
send £250 then so be it, I won't oppose it.


> [I have also been
> chatting to others today about the need for the meeting re: the 
> features
> list arguments - and maybe we need a
> London discussion on this issue first - to then take ideas to the 
> network]

That is a very good idea imho. I am interested in participating in such 
a debate in a live situation, as I can't afford the amount of time one 
needs to spend to be able to engage in an email flurry such as the one 
we've had in the features list lately.

To come up with a set of proposals for the network meeting would be 
very helpful i believe.


> • Foundry Show: The show came down this Sunday and we had good feedback
> from many people. There was general
> feeling of separation of the various parts of the show and a lack of
> communication. And of course fact that
> Indymedia had not been represented in the Climate Camp banners! Now we 
> are
> an invisible service centre!

Yeah, great, it's getting better by the time. I was at the camp, and I 
felt that the whole process was much more geared into massaging the 
mainstream and corporate media so they would echo the camp 'favorably', 
than in building on the 'movement's' self-sustained infrastructure 
(i.e: our own, independent, and alternative media structures)

It's also funny to see how all the groups and networks now involved in 
the climate camp would remember the existence and usefulness of 
indymedia when no-one else in the corporate sector would be interested 
in the issue (i.e; it wouldn't sell papers). Now that 'climate change' 
is such a seller, and thus the liberal media needs to echo it so to be 
'at the forefront' of journalism, the climate campers can afford to 
forget indymedia.

But, in relation to the cc photo show, i was assured by mini-mouse that 
it wasn't a conscious decision taken for tactical or political 
motivations to omit indymedia in the show, but rather "a mistake", and 
that they would be making another canvas with photos of the indymedia 
set up at the camp. The last thing he told me when we spoke about this 
was "next time you see the show there will be an indymedia canvas" ... 
remember that mm? :-)


> • Next general meeting will be 28th Nov at LARC - with a possible 
> working
> meeting in South London on the 21st to
> get a plan of action together for the new london site.

Could the possible south london meeting of the 21st be held on the 22nd 
instead if it ends up happening? I can't do the 21st, and I'd like to 
be there.

cheers
maqui