[Imc-mayday-collective] [New-imc] Mayday IMC

[Chris]

Hi

On Tue 19-Apr-2011 at 01:59:44PM +0200, Bartolomeo wrote:
>
> why are you sure that all postings flagged as 303 by
> indymedia.org.uk have been written by agents
> provocateurs?

Because we were following them as they were posted, have
spent a lot of time thinking about them, have studied them
and furthermore have noted that they stopped as soon as
the whistle was blown on them.

> these postings has been written by activists using the
> government network. Because they go to school or because
> they are in hospital. 

What evidence do you have that there have been any
legitimate posts originating from gateway 202 or 303? If
these were posts from teachers or hospital staff why have
they stopped? And why have the (lame) appeals for
government employees who use these gateways for activist
activity failed to generate a response? 

Of course, over the years, we did consider all
possibilities, here an anecdote which reflects this:

  One Friday morning, a couple of year ago, I was checking
  the UK IMC web site and saw that a new article had just
  been published that was hopless in terms of the
  information it contained:
  
    4th July - Shut Kingsnorth
    Milli-Band | 26.06.2009 07:29 | Climate Chaos | South Coast
    https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/06/433178
  
  There was no information about who had called the demo
  or why or the times, also it had come from
  gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk -- why were the police
  posting about a demo at a power station? Perhaps some
  copper really did want their grandchildren to have a
  habitable planet to live on? I, briefly, gave them the
  benefit of the doubt...
  
  So I did a bit or googling and found out that it was a
  protest called by Greenpeace, so I posted this as a
  comment and promoted it, so that the article made some
  sense:
  
    https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/06/433178?c=all#c226819
  
  I also chatted with another admin about this odd post --
  what were the cops up to?
  
  Then it all became clear, when they posted a comment to
  their own article:
  
    "No - stuff that - SHUT the place"
    
    "Let's not all stand around like lemmings - lets shut
    the place!"
    
    "Bring ladders and wire cutters."
    
    https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/06/433178?c=all#c226820
  
  They were posting about the protest, which hadn't been
  on Indymedia before they posted about it, in order to
  incite illegal activity. Perhaps to encourage more heavy
  policing of the event, perhaps to justify their
  existance, who knows...
  
  So, the article and both comments were hidden -- we are
  not interested in playing their games.
  
  And due to some IMC admins wanting to hush up the police
  posts to the site and the fact that they were being
  tracked I have been prevented from publically telling
  this story till now, and it feels good to be free to
  tell the truth at last! 

  http://sheffield.indymedia.org.uk/2011/01/472575.html?c=on#c263459

There are several other stories about the 202 and 303
posts which we can't go public on because the activists
involved don't want the private information that the
police posted about them, which was removed from the
articles and comments, being made public, but surfice to
say there is no doubt that information only available to
the police was posted to UK Indymedia from these
Government gateways.

All the best

Chris
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