[Imc-neworleans] Fwd: logging in to NOLA-IMC

[Christian Roselund]

You are in no position to unilaterally decide policy on who has log-in
permissions for this site.  Please restore my log-in until such time
as a policy is formulated by any acting collective.

On 8/19/07, Will Kirchheimer <will.kirchheimer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Was the decision to remove my log-in something that you took on
> personally, or was this a decision made by a group that met? And why
> was this not done publicly and transparently?
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>  I heard repeatedly that you had stopped being involved, then after your
> account had been inactive for a time (over a month) I removed it (with out
> consulting anyone), and that was weeks ago.  Some of this occurred after
> your more recent flaming and I figured you walked because of that, and to
> make contact you and confirm it would present a saving face issue.  I wanted
> to ask you about it personally at Markies the other night, but you refused
> to return my greetings, I figured that was that, I would let this go
> quietly.  Non active members should not have login access, for the reasons
> previously discussed.  That there were inactive users on the site after it
> was abandoned is sort of a no brainer, it was abandoned, people weren't
> maintaining it, ie no maintenance was done.  I'd left them in place for a
> time in hopes of drawing them back.
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>  It seems one thing that you haven't mentioned in you emails is whether you
> left?  You left once before (I think 2006), stating "you only felt motivated
> by IMC in emergencies", saying that you were leaving.  I tried to talk you
> out of it because you were the only active member left in NOLA as I was
> leaving town that week.  I was going to remove your login then,  but C said
> you had rethought the issue, and so you had.  Then presumably you left once
> before that, some time in 2004 when you moved to the bay?
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>  You mention for some reason in your email that I have had a period of
> inactivity with the site, I have no idea what you are talking about.   I
> have continued  working on this beloved project since I found it abandoned
> in early 2005.
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>  Christian Roselund wrote:
>  Will, NOLA-IMC folks,
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> To clarify, I haven't gone to a NOLA-IMC meeting in a while. Frankly,
> I'm pretty busy working for the teachers' union. However, I don't
> think "being under the impression" that I left the collective is a
> good reason to remove a log-in.
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> Like yourself, I have had periods of being active on the site and
> other periods where I've been busy with other things. I don't recall
> you ever asking me or ever receiving an email to notify me that you
> were considering removing my log-in. And I don't recall being
> involved in removing the log-ins of people who were still in New
> Orleans- I will note that we left two log-ins that were idle for
> literally years.
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> Was the decision to remove my log-in something that you took on
> personally, or was this a decision made by a group that met? And why
> was this not done publicly and transparently?
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> Christian
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> On 8/18/07, Will Kirchheimer <will.kirchheimer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Um, actually there have been several login purges, you participated in one
> of them. I remember chatting with you about it, discussing people to
> remove, people not to remove and things like that.
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>  The reasons for dormants removal discussed at the time included things like
> 'empowerment for the current group' and general security. The false
> impression that there is a larger collective to answer to was deemed a
> handicap for the organization, most specifically for new users.
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>  Currently there are 5 users registered for access to the site, of with one
> user hasn't logged one in the last 2 days.
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>  I really was under the impression you weren't involved in the collective
> anymore, and had chosen not to be involved.
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>  It seems perfectly obvious to remove people from the password list as they
> leave, just as I will be removed as wrap up my involvement and task-list by
> the end of this year.
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>  --Will
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>  Christian Roselund wrote:
>  Why did you remove my log-in?
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> During the years that I was actively maintaining the newswire at
> NOLA-IMC, there were multiple log-ins that were inactive, sometimes
> for years at a time. Are those still active?
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> Did you remove my log-in for personal reasons? Is that also the
> reason you have kept other inactive log-ins? And wouldn't the removal
> of my log-in warrant an email notification at the minimum?
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> Christian
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> On 8/17/07, Will Kirchheimer <will.kirchheimer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  I think I need to clarify what I wrote:
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>  "I was under the impression you left the collective, and removed your
>  login and several weeks ago."
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>  Should have another I in there:
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>  "I was under the impression you left the collective, and I removed your
>  login and several weeks ago."
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>  -- Will
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>  Matthew Olson wrote:
> i don't know. i've checked the wire today and nothing to put into local or
> global. just lots of misc. essays.
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>  --matt
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> On 8/17/07, Will Kirchheimer <will.kirchheimer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  I was under the impression you left the collective, and removed your
> login and several weeks ago.
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> The newswire was updated today, as most days.
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> -- Will
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> Christian Roselund wrote:
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>  Toups, Will, Matt,
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> I just attempted to log in to NOLA-IMC to see who (if anyone) was
> updating the newswire these days, and I found that my password is
> incorrect- funny, because that 's the password I've been using since
> at least the summer of 2003.
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> Any suggestions as to what is going on? Thanks.
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> C
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