[imc-northern-moderation] [imc-northern] Content Hidden: Fighting Fascism Is A Task For Us All

[Mike D]

Hi Jimdog,

The imc-uk-process list is not the right place for discussing
moderation issues for northern indymedia, however thank you for
pointing me in the right direction of the imc-northern moderation
list. I have also sent this email to the imc-northern list since it
contains non-moderation related concerns.

> as we talked about at a recent open collective meeting, it's
> important that we show solidarity to the decisions of our
> moderators.

Can you clarify this statement please? Does this mean no one in your
collective is allowed to disagree with the anyone else's moderation
decisions in your collective? How do you handle disagreements?

> Since it's clear that email is a crap way to sort out moderation
> disputes..

It works for all other indymedia collectives.

> ..this very kind of situation was discussed where people
> who don't play an active role in the collective try to undermine our
> process.

This is a loaded statement, no one is undermining any process, a
moderation concern has been raised. People from other collectives
(and indeed the general public) are allowed to have an interest in
how new regional IMCs are being run. Please could the previous
emails be responded to.

> anyone with an interest in discussing this further is
> welcome to attend the next imc northern meeting on sunday where it
> can go on the agenda and any objections heard.

So you are attempting to ban moderation discussion from the email
lists? This is excluding quite a lot of people! Indymedia works on
an open basis that anyone can challenge any moderation discussion
and anyone can propose a feature.

> This is a working list not a creche.

Please refrain from throwing insults around instead of discussing
what is a serious issue.


Mike


> Hi
>
> as we talked about at a recent open collective meeting, it's
> important that we show solidarity to the decisions of our
> moderators.
>
> Since it's clear that email is a crap way to sort out moderation
> disputes, and this very kind of situation was discussed where people
> who don't play an active role in the collective try to undermine our
> process, anyone with an interest in discussing this further is
> welcome to attend the next imc northern meeting on sunday where it
> can go on the
> agenda and any objections heard. If people aren't prepared to take
> this route, then they must respect the decisions of those who do as
> there has been every chance for them to do so. I therefore wish to
> implement the process we agreed that all further discussion of this
> subject goes to our next meeting and that those who are unwilling to
> do so leave moderation decisions to those who attend. Also, the
> imc-northern-moderation list is for discussion of this kind, not
> this list. If any more moderation questions need to be raised,
> please do so there. This is a working list not a creche.
>
> In solidarity
>
> jimdog
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [imc-northern] Content Hidden: Fighting Fascism Is A
> Task For Us All
> From: Mike D <mike-d at riseup.net>
> Date: 29/10/2009 12:07 AM
>
> Darn it, soon people are going to think imc northern has got it in
> for
> the antifascists.
>
> Please unhide this as it is definitely news. There is nothing in
> your
> editorial guidelines which prohibits this  (please quote if you
> think
> there is). What is important is that news is of local interest. Sine
> 40 antifascists turned up at the Common Place I am sure there is
> definitely of local interest. As you can see there are 38+ comments
> on
> the uk newswire:-
>
> https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/10/440772.html
>
> Allowing news items such as this might attract new users to your
> site.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2009, at 23:57, anargeek wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Wed 28-Oct-2009 at 11:41:41PM +0000, protag wrote:
>>> I must have missed the bit where they mentioned the BBC promoting
>>> the
>>> BNP.
>>
>> Uh-hu...
>>
>>> Or the reference (for example) to the planned opposition in Leeds
>>> on
>>> Saturday to the EDL march.
>>
>> That sounds like something for an "addition"...
>>
>>> It's almost like they deliberately left anything relevant to
>>> current
>>> news out of it.
>>>
>>> I wonder why that was.
>>
>> You think you know why this was?
>>
>>> As it stands it's inexcusably non-news. I think it deserves to
>>> remain
>>> hidden until they re-write it to show a bit of local and/or
>>> current
>>> relevance.
>>
>> Why not unhide it and allow the local info to be posted as an
>> addition?
>>
>> Chris
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