[imc-northern] Process process

[quietly at hidinginthebushes.org.uk]

Hi Protag

I'm actually in Oxford at the moment. I've already started speaking to one
of the people involved in the imc here and we're looking at how to take
things forward - I got some interest that more background of how this
works, in particular in Radical Routes will help, so I plan to crack on
with this. I don't think that things are as bad as they seem on email -
not all the nuances have been conveyed.

A problem though is that Oxford is not going to have a f2f meeting for a
while, but hopefully there will be an email discussion as well.

I think that we should email each of the collectives and ask specifically
for feedback on the proposal and what further information they would like
from us to help them get a feel for this. Once the London Bookfair is out
of the way I will re-engage in this much more - apologies for not being
able to make recent meetings, but am working flat out on a new publication
on population and migration to be out for the bookfair.

On a separate point, with regards the legal workshop what are going to be
the main issued focused on?

I would like to flag up is the fact that there are a lot of legal weak
points in in the current structure, in particular the registration of
servers and bank accounts and this needs to be looked at. Several other
people expressed similar concern to me and I would like to explore this in
more detail. I have ideas...

Cheers
Donal

> Hey Donal
>
> We've sent out the meeting invite but the process is still where it
> was when you sent your mail about three weeks ago.
>
> What I think has happened is that we asked Oxford what they thought
> of the rest of it
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-oxford/2010-September/0910-dx.html
> (since points 8 & 9 seemed to be a particular problem) and, although
> they've discussed it no one's come back to us yet (I think this may
> be an oversight).
>
> As such it seems likely we'll have to endure another process-free
> meeting, though Nab has mailed Seeds for Change so there is some hope
> there.
>
> It seems like the wrong end of the stick has been firmly grasped but
> what I've found in Indy world is that even having the temerity to say
> such a thing causes a tightening of the grip rather than a reflection
> on the true relationship between the hand and the stick.
>
> The problem with a more formal consultation document (though I'm not
> completely opposed to such a thing) is that at the last meeting one
> of the complaints about the most meticulously documented proposal was
> that it was too long. Seems like a lose-lose situation. But I don't
> know what else we can do apart from explain again - perhaps at
> greater length - what the objective is. Can't really propose the
> whole thing at Network level if Oxford are going to block.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Protag