[imc-northern] [PROPOSAL] wording of statement on proposed global feature

protag protag at aktivix.org
Tue Jan 25 01:56:38 PST 2011


Hi

I'm basically in agreement with these proposals. My only outstanding
concern really is the individual block put in place by someone who is
linked to the server and has had legal advice that it would be best not to
let the story run. 

I've not heard much about that lately so I'm unclear whether that's even a
live issue now - but I feel a bit shit just hanging him out to dry without
recognising (at least) that no effort to accomodate his concerns seems to
have been made by the ip-gatherers.

Beyond that, I'm interested in the adaptation of the London statement - I
think it's a big opportunity to champion the virtues of local organising
and open meetings as a way of building trust and community. It seems to me
that it's the absence of those things which has allowed the "we are
capturing your data for your own benefit" people to go so seriously
off-piste.

Protag


On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:00:41 +0000, Jim Dog <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
wrote:
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> Hi
> 
> politics rearing it's ugly head again but there is now a requirement for
> us to look at the block we have in place regarding the Gateway 303
article.
> 
> Since it has now been published anyway (against consensus) it means that
> one of the reasons for our collective block is now no longer applicable
> (that all relevant server admins give consent before publication) - that
> is an issue that will need to be looked at globally but seperately.
> 
> The other reason for our block is that we have insisted on a sentence
> being added to the top of any feature making clear that the ability to
> filter IP addresses is one from the IMC UK (mir) platform only and not
> other IMC's around the world.
> 
> This feature has just been proposed to the global site, and I have
> pointed out that there are still active blocks from us and London in
place.
> 
> I therefore proposed the following:
> 
> _______________________________________
> 
> * That we sign off on the statement made by IMC London here
> http://london.indymedia.org/articles/7018 as a collective and adapt a
> version for publication on our own site
> 
> * We agree to drop our block of this article being published as a
> feature, and agree to it being added as a feature on the global
> www.indymedia.org site provided a statement such as the following is
> added in bold to the top of the article:
> 
> "note to readers: the ability to capture personally identifiable IP data
> discussed in this article is a feature of the UK Indymedia site at
> www.indymedia.org.uk only. Regional collectives around the UK such as
> London, Bristol, Nottingham and Northern England, and other Indymedia
> sites around the world do not have access to IP data from their users,
> and take active steps to ensure that their users anonymity is preserved
> to the best technical degree possible. It is recommended that all users
> of Indymedia and other internet sites take responsibility for their own
> privacy online and that they make use of https connections and
> anonymising software such as Tor to do so.
> 
> Further information on taking steps to ensure your online anonymity
> online anonymity can be read online at
> https://northern-indymedia.org/zines/1165"
> 
> since this is likely to be pretty fast moving, can I suggest a 24 hr
> deadline for consensus?
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> JimDog
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