[IMC-NYC-Editorial] Re: hidden post about the "Israeli lobby" from
manifestink at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 14 13:41:09 PDT 2004
Hey all --
The author is exactly on the line. He doesn't say "the Jews are running
America." He does place primary responsibility for the decisions of the Bush
administration on Israeli partisans aka Jewish advisors.
The post begins with this quote:
"Fahrenheit 911 is a hot pop-doc but is it kosher? Why does Israel get a
It then includes a graphic depiction of three Jewish-American members of the
And it includes this line in the middle: "Currently the AIPAC lobby has a
stranglehold on Congress, the Senate, and the White House.... Ariel Sharon
has Arafat under house arrest in Ramallah, and George Bush under house
arrest in the White House."
That is anti-Semitic regardless of Michael Moore's confusions about Israel
and Zionism. Jews and/or Israelis do not control American policy.
This is an old cannard. I mean hundreds of years old. It's part of the
reason, in my estimation, that the Bush administration uses Jewish advisors
in a public way as the public face of the Iraq policy. So when the shit hits
the fan, it's the "Jews."
I, too, am tired of false accusation of anti-Semitism being used to
discredit legitimate criticism of Zionism. I am a longtime opponent of
Zionism as such and do not believe Israel has any right to exist whatsoever.
I have backed this up with work in opposition to the Oslo Accords when they
were being signed, in numerous pieces I have personally written and in
countless formal and informal conversations.
Which is to say, I am sensitive to the issue. Singling out Jews in the
administration, with noticably Jewish names, smacks of anti-Semitism. I
don't really care whether CounterPunch draws a different line. In their
recent book on anti-Semitism, they took special care to include two
classically anti-Semitic essays as if to prove the point. Assuming we know
how to read between the lines, I'm about as interested in running articles
exposing the "court Jews" as I am with rants about "welfare mothers."
No matter how much the Chicken Littles at the ADL hoot and holler, the sky
does fall sometimes and I will not participate in the spreading of
anti-Semitic propaganda barely disguised as film criticism.
Regarding Normal Finkelstein, I have published interviews with him and have
the highest respect for his work. I don't see what he has to do with this.
As always, if there is not a consensus to hide the article, it will be made
visible. However, I stand by my own decision.
The article code number is: 96580
On 7/14/04 3:30 PM, "Chris Anderson" <chanders_imc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> do we have a url of the post?
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:37:00 -0700
>> From: Ana <ana at indymedia.org>
>> Subject: [IMC-NYC-Editorial] Fwd: Awaiting policy
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>> i told paul i would get back to him. can whoever hid
>> this revisit the
>> ----- Forwarded message from PKJ <pkj at pkj.ca> -----
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:20:06 -0700
>> From: PKJ <pkj at pkj.ca>
>> Reply-To: PKJ <pkj at pkj.ca>
>> Subject: Awaiting policy decision from editors
>> To: ana at indymedia.org
>> Dear Ana,
>> on July 9th I received this email from the
>> Your article entitled "Fahrenheit freezes out
>> Israel." has been hidden from
>> the newswire by the mountain.
>> The hide code was: Policy Violation.
>> The following comments were noted regarding your
>> Anti-Semitic -- singles out Jews in the
>> administration for special
>> The article is still available at the original URL,
>> or on the hidden
>> newswire page.
>> Feel free to reply to this message if you have any
>> questions regarding this
>> Thank you, The IMC Editorial Collective.
>> I don't know what to say about these comments. I
>> re-read my original post
>> and I never used the word "Jews" in my essay. I
>> certainly never "single(d)
>> out" the religious, ethnic background, or any
>> other identifying feature,
>> of any person in the essay.
>> I referred to the State of Israel. I referred to the
>> Government of Israel. I
>> referred to the Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel
>> I referred to Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, David
>> and Meyrav Wurmser as
>> individuals who are on the record as public figures
>> who wrote in 1996 the
>> Institute for Advanced Strategic and Policy Studies
>> document "A CLEAN BREAK:
>> NEW STRATEGIES FOR SECURING THE REALM" which is
>> available on line at the
>> www.IASPS.org website.
>> My essay is based on hard fact. If you wish I can
>> provide a full
>> bibliography of the primary sources for my entire
>> I appreciate the concern which the Collective has
>> raised, however in this
>> time of increased political correctness it seems
>> rather strange that an
>> Independent Media Centre would censor factual
>> information, and use as
>> justification the incredibly tired rubric of
>> I need only to refer to the writings of Professor
>> Norman Finkelstein to
>> corroborate my feelings on this contentious
>> The issue of "blood libel" as so easily thrown out
>> by the likes of Alan
>> Dershowitz is a convenient blind to any open and
>> frank debate about the
>> unwarranted influence of certain individuals who may
>> indeed be accused of
>> "dual loyalties."
>> I thank the Collective for proving that the NY IMC
>> does indeed scrutinize
>> the material submitted, and is rigorous in it's
>> efforts to restrict, or
>> eliminate, racist, or hate literature from the
>> However, until it can be proved beyond any
>> reasonable doubt that my essay is
>> indeed racist, or hate literature, I must appeal the
>> decision made to
>> restrict my essay.
>> In conclusion, I stand by my essay as written, but I
>> would consider any
>> editorial suggestions which would enable the essay
>> to be reposted. This
>> might include explanatory addenda, or a complete
>> bibliography of the primary
>> sources used to create my essay, or perhaps even a
>> redacted version, so
>> popular these days within the Bush Administration.
>> I await your decision,
>> Paul Kincaid Jamieson
>> Vancouver, BC Canada
>> (604) 254 4377
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