[imc-oxford-features] [IMC-Process] Proposal: IMC Oxford

[Adelayde Skidmore]

+1 from me.  Good work G. 

On 14/10/2011 20:33, penguin wrote:
> Here is my proposed reply. Please can you let me know if this is OK to
> send by Sunday.
>
> Cheers
>
> G
>
>
> ...
>
> The member of Mayday referred to is part of Oxford Indymedia, and has
> been for many years. Our experience as members of the Oxford Indymedia
> Collective has been that this member has been willing and able to
> separate his involvement from Mayday and Oxford. At Oxford Indymedia
> meetings, and in his actions related to Oxford Indymedia, he has not
> brought Mayday 'baggage' with him.
>
> We therefore see no problem or reason for concern about this person's
> continued involved with Oxford Indymedia. The issues that are raised to
> do with domain names and Indymedia resources are an issue to be raised
> with Mayday, and not Oxford Indymedia. Oxford has always maintained a
> neutral position on these disagreements, as was posted on this article:
> https://indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/oxford/2011/05/479419.html
>
> Given Oxford's neutral stance regarding issues to do with Indymedia in
> the UK - a stance that has been accepted by both sides - please can you
> clarify what your specific concerns are around Oxford gaining IMC
> status? The concerns around Mayday are understood, but the IMC
> application is for Oxford, not Mayday.
>
> Many thanks
>
>
> On Fri 14 Oct 2011 15:59:11 BST, Bartolomeo [bartolomeo at indymedia.org]
> emailed subject: "Re: [imc-oxford-features] [IMC-Process] Proposal: IMC
> Oxford" saying ...
>
> > [DE]
>
> > Liebe Indy Community,
>
> > wir sehen die Bewerbung von Indy Oxford mit großer Sorge, denn ein
> Mitglied
> > der Mayday Gruppe ist Mitglied bei Indy Oxford. Jegliches
> Restvertrauen zur
> > Mayday Gruppe wurde durch den Diebstahl der Domain indymedia.org.uk
> zerstört,
> > denn die Mitglieder der Gruppe haben damit kollektiven Besitz in ihren
> > Privatbesitz verwandelt.
>
> > Noch immer ist auf der Startseite der meisten Indymedia Websites ein
> Link zu
> > uk.indymedia.org, der auf die gestohlene Domain indymedia.org.uk
> umleitet. Wir
> > fordern diejenigen, die die Passwörter zur Änderung der Cities List
> haben,
> > nochmals auf, diesen Link endlich zu entfernen. Weiter fordern wir
> die DNS
> > working group auf, den DNS-Eintrag von uk.indymedia.org endlich auf
> das Archiv
> > der Indy UK-Seite zu setzen oder den Eintrag zu löschen.
>
> > Der Entzug aller Indymedia-Ressourcen für die Mayday Gruppe wegen ihres
> > Vertrauensbruchs wurde bereits vor Monaten auf dieser Liste
> beschlossen. Die
> > Nichtumsetzung stellt einen Machtmissbrauch und damit ebenfalls einen
> > Vertrauensbruch dar. Selbstverständlich sind die Techies Teil von
> Indymedia
> > und können darüber die Politik mitbestimmen. Wenn aber eine
> Entscheidung vom
> > gesamten Netzwerk gefällt wurde, müssen sich alle daran halten -
> auch die
> > Techies. Wenn Techies meinen, die Politik des Indymedia-Netzwerks
> über die
> > ihnen geliehene Macht bestimmen zu wollen, dann sollten sie das
> Netzwerk
> > verlassen.
>
> > Mit solidarischen Grüßen,
>
> > IMC linksunten
>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > [EN]
>
> > Dear Indy Community,
>
> > we see Indy Oxford's application with great concern as one member of
> the
> > Mayday group is also a member of Indy Oxford. We have no more
> confidence in the
> > Mayday group because they have stolen the domain indymedia.org.uk
> and turned
> > collective property into private one.
>
> > There is still a link to uk.indymedia.org on the front page of most
> Indymedia
> > websites which redirects to the stolen domain indymedia.org.uk. Once
> again we
> > ask those who know the passwords to change the cities list to
> finally remove
> > the link. Furthermore, we ask the DNS working group to change the
> DNS record
> > of uk.indymedia.org to point to the archive of the UK Indy site or
> remove the
> > record completely.
>
> > The withdrawal of all Indymedia resources from the Mayday group as a
> > consequence of their breach of confidence was decided upon on this
> list months
> > ago. The lack of implementation is an abuse of power and thus a
> breach of
> > confidence, too. Of course, the techies are part of Indymedia and
> can influence
> > the politics of the network this way. But if a decision is taken by
> the whole
> > network then everyone must stick to - the techies, too. If the
> techies try to
> > dictate the politics of the Indymedia network through technical
> power which
> > was lent to them by the network then they should leave the network.
>
> > Solidarity,
>
> > IMC linksunten
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