[Imc-oxford-tech] Decision needed?

penguin penguin at riseup.net
Sun May 1 06:54:38 PDT 2011


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Hi

Also sending to the main Oxford list, since a statement about our
intentions goes beyond being only a tech issue.

On 01/05/11 10:25, Mr. Demeanour wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 1. The Mir instance on Traven has been archived, and a splash-page has
>     been put up. Open publishing on Traven is still enabled; they
>     intended to turn it off, but held back specifically to avoid burning
>     the Oxford newswire. They are giving us a week to find a new home.
> 
>     Um, I wasn't aware that this was the plan, but others don't seem
>     surprised. I thought they'd find a way to allow publishing only for
>     Oxford, but it seems not.

Oh. I didn't realise this either. Not sure what to do - not the most
helpful answer, but I don't know what else to say.

Presumably this also applies to other collectives using Mir (e.g.
Sheffield, South Coast) - what are they doing.

> 
> 2. The DNS for indymedia.org.uk has been changed to point at the Mayday
>     host in Iceland, which is running a full clone of the Traven Mir
>     instance, complete with regional sites. As far as I can see the
>     Oxford site is working.

Oxford looks fine to me as well.

> 
> 3. Mir stores admin passwords in plain; therefore all admin accounts
>     on the new server have been disabled, except for those who have been
>     in IRC and have been able to log in and change their admin password.
>     I've changed mine, and can log in. I can re-enable your account as
>     soon as you're ready to change your password - I guess one way to
>     organise that would be for you to phone me when you're ready, and if
>     I'm convinced you're you, I'll do it. 

Cheers - I'll call

> 
> 4. BeTheMedia are apparently awaiting a statement from Oxford
>     concerning our plans. I'd say that events have overtaken this, but
>     it would nevertheless be civil to give them a statement ASAP.
> 
> So can we agree a statement on mailing lists, or do we have to wait till
> the face meeting? My sense is that there is no practical urgency, but to
> delay needlessly would be impolite. If we want to wait for the face
> meeting, then I'm proposing this discussion for the agenda.

Not sure if I can be at the meeting - if I can, I will be late.

My personal view is that Mayday and Be the Media are both good projects,
and I would be keen that Oxford IMC maintains the neutral stance it has
adopted to date.

Are we clear enough about our plans to make a comprehensive statement?
My sense is that we're not. If others agree, I think we could go with a
fairly bland opening statement - here's my starter for 10 ...

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considering all options, including becoming and independent Indymedia
collective. We are also quite a small collective, and we definitely
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> 
> 5. I noticed a glitch on the Oxford site:
>     http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/oxford/2011/04/478535.html
>     That article is hidden, but (a) appears on the Oxford wire, and (b)
>     it isn't styled as a hidden article. The same article receives
>     proper hidden styling if viewed through the UK URL:
>     http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/04/478535.html
>     I presume we have a screwy Oxford stylesheet - perhaps customised
>     but not checked-in, or sommat like that.

a) I suspect this was just the time-lag between hiding an article and it
not showing on the newswire. It's not on teh wire now.

b) AKAIK there has never been a separate style for hiddens - although I
think one would be a good idea (e.g. gray background).

> 
> If anyone wants a more detailed explanation of what's been happening,
> you can phone me or email me, and I'll do my best. I'm also up for a
> swift beer, if anyone wants to meet for a yak.
> 
You around this evening or Monday evening for a beer?

Cheers
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penguin

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