[IMC-Process] brisbane proposal and delayed mails

[clara]

Dear all,

in the last weeks there were a couple of mails that did not offer much
as constructive contributions on the issue of imc-brisbane, some of them
double, some of them crossposted on different lists and to individuals 
as well.

They were hold up on imc-process while we were trying to find a way to 
deal with it in a way that would not end up in a big flame war

However, there was a mail from imc-melbourne
with a clear proposal and a deadline to disaffilliate imc-brisbane.

We overlooked that mail, and only accepted it 10 days later.
We are sorry about this delay.

We propose the following:
- to add the 10 days delay to the deadline of the proposal, so that it
would be *28 november*.
- we will only accept questions and statements on this issue made by
*liasons on behalf of their local IMCs*, but not anybody's personal
statements on this matter.
- the imc-process facilitators will not engage in prolonged discussions 
about the content of this proposal on the imc-process facilitator 
mailing list.

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the original statement:
- [en] 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1027-ct.html
- [fr, es] 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-November/1108-ir.html

support: [en, fr, es]; 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1031-bk.html

the propsal [en, fr, es]: 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-November/1118-sa.html

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clara

as facilitator of imc-process


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takver wrote:
> 1. (en) Brisbane Disaffiliation Decision 
> 2. (es) Decisión De la Desafiliación De Brisbane
> 3. (fr) Décision De Désaffiliation De Brisbane
> 4. (es) 27 de octubre: Declaración sobre el conflicto de Brisbane IMC y 
> Oceanía de ex-miembros de Brisbane Indymedia y otros activistas de 
> Brisbane.
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------
> 1. (en) Brisbane Disaffiliation Decision 
> http://brisbane.indymedia.org
> 
> Melbourne IMC proposes that if there is no dissent by other IMC 
> collectives by November 19, 2004, that Brisbane IMC should be 
> disaffiliated from the Indymedia Network and taken off the cities list. 
> While the liason for Brisbane IMC is entitled to put forward reasons 
> against disaffiliation, they cannot block the decision. 
> 
> On 27 october a proposal was made to ask the indymedia network to 
> disaffiliate IMC Brisbane from the Indymedia network. (URL en, below es)
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1027-
> ct.html
> 
> This proposal was supported by IMC Melbourne on 31 October
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1031-
> bk.html 
>  (en, fr, es)
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> 2. (es) Decisión De la Desafiliación De Brisbane
> http://brisbane.indymedia.org
> 
> Melbourne IMC propone que si no hay disensión por otros collectives IMC 
> antes del de noviembre 19 de 2004, que Brisbane IMC debe ser 
> disaffiliated de la red de Indymedia y sacó la lista de las ciudades.  
> Mientras que el liason para Brisbane IMC se da derecho a proponer 
> razones contra la desafiliación, no pueden bloquear la decisión.  
> 
> El 27 de octubre una oferta fue hecha para pedir la red del indymedia 
> al disaffiliate IMC Brisbane de la red de Indymedia. (URL (en), 4. 
> debajo (es))
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1027-
> ct.html
> 
> Esta oferta fue apoyada por IMC Melbourne el 31 de octubre
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1031-
> bk.html 
>  (en, fr, es)
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> 3. (fr) Décision De Désaffiliation De Brisbane
> http://brisbane.indymedia.org
> 
> Melbourne IMC propose que s'il n'y a aucune dissidence par d'autres 
> collectives IMC en novembre 19, 2004, que Brisbane IMC devrait être 
> disaffiliated du réseau d'Indymedia et a enlevé la liste de villes.  
> Tandis que le liason pour Brisbane IMC est autorisé à proposer des 
> raisons contre la désaffiliation, elles ne peuvent pas bloquer la 
> décision.  
> 
> 27 octobre une proposition a été faite pour demander le réseau 
> d'indymedia au disaffiliate IMC Brisbane du réseau d'Indymedia.  (URL 
> (en), voir 4. ci-dessous (es))
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1027-
> ct.html
> 
> Cette proposition a été appuyée par IMC Melbourne 31 octobre
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-October/1031-
> bk.html 
>  (en, fr, es)
> 
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> Takver
> imc-process liason
> Melbourne IMC
> 
>