[IMC-Process] about Indymedia Santiago de Chile

Lars Gonçalves strafwetboek at causaencantada.org
Mon Nov 29 07:09:03 PST 2004


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Hi all. 

After reading the comments in the article I posted asking for 
clarification on the situation, I think this is a convenient proposal. 

I'd just like to add that it will be necessary to put a statement there  
clarifying that: the only proposal to dissafiliate Santiago IMC came 
from a group of independent journalists from the Santiago IMC, and that  
proposal was not consensual in the global lists, so no "inminent  
dissafiliation process" was in progress, as they untruly claims. 

If the Santiago IMC collective decided to leave the Indymedia network, 
it is a decission of themselves, and of course creating new alternative 
communication projects is a good thing. But that abandonement has 
nothing to do with Indymedia internals, as we have been not involved in 
their internal conflicts.

Something like that, as their feature states things that are not true, 
beeing propagated network wide.

Un saúdo,
Lars.  

http://santiago.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/29174.php

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Hola a tod at s.

Despues de haber leído los comentarios publicados a esta noticia que 
publiqué, creo que esta propuesta es razonable. 

Adicionalmente, pienso que deberíamos manifestar en la nota de cierre 
que: la única propuesta de desafiliación que se hizo, provino 
precisamente de un grupo de "periodistas independientes" del propio CMI 
Santiago. Esa propuesta no obtuvo consenso en las listas globales, de 
modo que no existía ningún proceso de desafiliación inminente tal como 
tratan de hacernos creer en su comunicado.

La decisión del CMI Santiago de abandonar la red es una decisión 
unilateral por su parte y por supuesto crear nuevos proyectos de 
comunicación alternativa es una buena cosa. Pero ese abandono no tiene 
nada que ver con Indymedia, puesto que siempre nos hemos mantenido al 
margen de sus conflictos internos.

Algo así, puesto que su comunicado afirma cosas que no son ciertas sobre 
la red Indymedia y están siendo propagadas por toda la red.

Un saúdo,
Lars.

http://santiago.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/29174.php



On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:39:10PM -0200, Libertinus wrote:
> (sorry the crossposting)
> 
> Crealo o no, el CMI Santiago de Chile desapareció.
> Believe it or not, IMC Santiago de Chile  disappeared.
> 
> Ningún colectivo propuso su expulsión. Ante conflictos locales varios
> voluntarios estabamos discutiendo en la lista imc-latina y yo propuse que se
> haga una refundación, a titulo personal.
> 
> El sitio debería ser congelado y poner un destaque diciendo que no hay más
> colectivo.
> 
> 
> No group proposed the expulsion.  Before local conflicts several volunteers were
> discussing in  imc-latina list and I proposed a remake the collective. In a
> personal title.
> 
> The site would have to be congealed and put a feature saying that there is no
> more group. Site freeze.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Libertinus ______________________
> http://www.fotolog.net/libertinus
> 
> 
> Mensaje citado por allanboyd <allanx at indymedia.org>:
> 
> | Hello,
> |
> | I've seen nothing about this posted here on process list but the "story"
> | has been posted around the indymedia network.
> |
> | "For a Real Independent Journalism: criticism to the Indymedia Network.
> | Collective Indymedia Santiago."
> | (Official notice from the Collective Indymedia Santiago about it’s
> | imminent expulsion from the Indymedia Network).
> | see: http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=7198
> |
> | Can anyone confirm...?.
> |
> | allan_x - perth liason
> |
> |
> |
> | --
> | cheerx
> | allanx at indymedia.org
> | http://perth.indymedia.org
> |
> |
> |
> | lotus wrote:
> |
> | >Hello. I work with San Diego Indymedia, FTAA IMC and Biotech IMC.
> | >
> | >I'm curious about this post from Chile:
> | >
> | >http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/106843.shtml
> | >
> | >are they being kicked out of the network for not engaging in
> | >"objective" journalism? that's what it sounds like. I don't see that
> | >requirement anywhere in the principles of unity:
> | >
> | >http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/PrinciplesOfUnity
> | >
> | >?
> | >
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