[IMC-Process] Indymedia.be disaffiliation

[bruno at indymedia.be]

[espanol abajo]

[EN]

Hello all,

The .be collective is currently preparing for bomspotting, a
national action against the presence of nuclear weapons in Belgium --
see www.bomspotting.be. This to say we
don't really have time to thoroughly discuss imc-liège's request and
answer in detail, which we feel we must.

For now, we want to say that we don't agree with the
allegations mentioned in imc-liège's mail. Allegations we refuted numerous
times. The document imc-liège refers to
(http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/BelgiumSituationEn) has been
answered in detail months ago:
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcBelgiumSituationEn .

We also want to repeat that we are in favor of conflict resolution, not
exclusion. Since imc-liège refers to the bimc conflict, we think a kind
of independent mediation is necessary here in Belgium. We believe it
would be useful for such a mediator to be able to check the facts
him/herself.

A more detailed answer will follow asap,
All the best,

/bruno for indymedia.be
(han, our liason, is on holiday for the moment)

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[ES]

Un saludo para todos,

El colectivo de belgium.indymedia.org, por el momento, se está
preparando para la acción "Bomspotting", que es una acción internacional
contra la presencia de armas nucleares en Bélgica. Es por esto que no 
nos encontramos con mucho
tiempo para responder a las proposiciones de IMC-Liège, aunque ésto nos
parece de suma importancia.

Por el momento sólo podemos decir que no estamos de acuerdo con estas
acusaciones que ya hemos rechazado muchas veces. En el correo
electrónico de Liège se pone un Link hacia
(http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/BelgiumSituationEn) y hemos
respondido a este texto, en detalles hace algunos meses:
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcBelgiumSituationEn.

Repetimos, también que estamos dispuestos a una solución del conflicto,
y no a
soluciones de esclusiones. Puesto que liège habla del conflicto en
Brisban, pensamos que una
especie de mediación independente es indispensable en el conflicto
Bélgica. Pensamos que sería interesante que tal mediador sea capaz de
tener en
cuenta todas las posiciones de ambas partes.

Una respuesta más detallada la entregaremos lo más rápido posible,
Cordialmente,

/bruno, por indymedia.be
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gek wrote:

>>Today, we concluded that:
>>- A collective, which is composed by a big majority of members from the 
>>same political party and which pushes the other opinions to leave, is 
>>not a condition for a diversity.
>>    
>>
>[...]
>  
>
>>only 2 points of it, is not able to say it still adheres to the 
>>principles of indymedia.
>>    
>>
>
>I have a couple clarifying questions before SF Indymedia can consider
>this proposal:
>
>1) Who are the actual sponsors of this proposal? Is it IMC-Liege and a
>handful of individuals?
>
>2) Is there somewhere online which documents or explains in greater
>depth the many "conclusions" we are expected to use to justify kicking
>people out of Indymedia? How can the sponsors of this proposal ensure
>that greater Indymedia is considering all the facts fairly? 
>
>-gek/sf-imc
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