[imc-queer] Editorial Policy

pina at riseup.net pina at riseup.net
Mon Feb 28 18:09:59 PST 2005


Hi Vince
i'm sorry i dont understand exctally what process list were you ralking
about? imc-communication? if yes, this is not a process list,  it's a list
for communication between imc's, for process we have imc-process, a
decision making list, which tries to solve problems inside the network...
you can find all list of indymedias in http://lists.indymedia.org/
=)
Pina



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> <P>Pina,</P>
> <P>Thanks so much for your.&nbsp; It does take courage to speak up!
> I&nbsp;actually was unaware of that particular process list, and will
> search for it, or if it is available to you,&nbsp;would you be able to
> send me the link?</P>
> <P>Also, I will try to find some positive information I wrote regarding a
> humanistic moderation policy. When I switched computers, I lost some
> information, so I don't have it readily accessible.</P>
> <P>Finally, one thing that will probably come up, at some point on
> IMC&nbsp;Queer, as&nbsp;it has on some radical queer listserves I belong
> to, &nbsp;is the dissident perspective on AIDs.&nbsp; Thinking about this
> volatile issue before hand, as well as&nbsp;formulating an appropriate
> policy and responses through consensus will probably avoid future
> issues.</P>
> <P>In Solidarity,</P>
> <P>Vince<BR><BR></P></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: pina em riseup.net
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: IMC Queer &lt;imc-queer em lists.indymedia.org&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "IMC Queer" &lt;imc-queer em lists.indymedia.org&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: imc-queer em lists.indymedia.org
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: [imc-queer] Editorial Policy
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:42:39 -0800 (PST)
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Hi Vince and all
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;I did not know all those things about indymedia nyc... i
> sugested this ep,
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;cause i like the way they are not only about things they
> dont wont on
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;their web site... this ep also includes stuff they actually
> want and
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;support. I´m not very aware of the internal conflicts of
> indymedia nyc,
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;and i´m not saying that we should replicate that behavior.
> I´m saying that
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;we need to come up with our own ep. I only sent this so ppl
> could actually
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;start discuss this issue, otherwise we wont be able to
> build a real queer
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;imc. Did you also noticed that i sent a link to a very
> interesting doc on
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;our docs page??? We can start to discuss that page instead
> of nyc
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;editorial police.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Vince if you actually feel that way about indymedia nyc, i
> sugest you to
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;bring this issue on imc-communication, there is a much more
> apropriated
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;place to discuss this.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;=)
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Pina
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;------------------------------------------------------
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;html&gt;&lt;div
> style='background-color:'&gt;&lt;P&gt;What a seemingly pretty, but
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; hollow document. NYC IMC, it's editors, have a
> notorious reputation for
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; abusing their moderation policy. Don't believe me? Go
> see to their hidden
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; section, and see for yourself. I'm not sure why we'd
> seek to replicate
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; such. &lt;/P&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;DIV&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;DIV&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;DIV class=RTE&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;P&gt;Why give a queer imprimatur to a collective
> that that has a checkered
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; history, including on queer/trans/bi community
> concerns.&amp;nbsp; There is
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; extensive documentation available which raises these
> concerns&lt;/P&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;A
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
> href="http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/imc-germany/2004-January/002831.html"&gt;http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/imc-germany/2004-January/002831.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;P&gt;There are lots of IMC editorial policies on
> which to base ours. Let's
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; get off to a fresh start.&lt;/P&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;P&gt;As a moderator with NJ IMC, I understand the
> need for moderation, but
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; is it really necessary for editors with nyc imc to
> hide countless posts
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; daily, each accompanied by an ill-tempered comment
> that this person or
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; that person is a troll, or is horrid, or has two
> heads or whatever? Is
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; that mature? Is that professional? Is that the image
> that we want to
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; convey? Abusive behavior by someone vested with some
> authority, as the nyc
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; editors are, is NOT cutting edge, or cool, or
> something, or whatever! It
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; is cruel. There is no excuse that this bullying
> behavior is tolerated. To
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; acquiesce is to give tacit approval. &lt;/P&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &lt;P&gt;Vince&lt;/P&gt;
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