[imc-sa] Logs for IRC meet 26 July 11.[Imc-africa] Delegations / committees
Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu
molefindlovu at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 26 08:09:07 PDT 2011
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[16:46] <motho>Hey greeting imc - Africa
[16:47] <motho>sorry i got delayed!
[16:48] <motho>wasnt sure if there was a meeting scheduled for this afternoon?
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[16:49] <motho>is thereanyone out there?
[16:52] <motho>guess there was no meeting scheduled.
[16:55] <motho>There some updates on logistics which i will post to the list on
[17:00] <motho>Ok.logginf off now, will link up another time- From Durban- Peace
Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu
Centre for Civil Society
University of Kwazulu-Natal
Memorial Tower Building
Howard College Campus
Tel: (+27)031 260 1506/3577
Fax: 031 260 2502
alt e-mail:molefi at union.org.za/
ccs at ukzn.ac.za
From: Amy L. Dalton <ald at riseup.net>
To: African IMCs and the imc project in Africa <imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu <molefindlovu at yahoo.com>; imc-sa at lists.indymedia.org
Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 1:59:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Imc-africa] Delegations / committees
Thanks molefi for your email. Several replies inline below.
First through what time is the chat this morning? I remember it was
changed to 10:30am new york time. If so, I will not be able to make it
because I have church at this time. I realize that there was a strong
request for my attendance but I hope this note is sufficient. Please do
identify any questions or tasks you have for me. I will log on at 9:30
just to be sure.
On 6/23/11 4:32 AM, Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu wrote:
> On the matter of delegates; i sent along last week rough estimates of
> ticket fares for delegates listed on our archive; may i make a suggestion?
> Given the cost of ticket fares and a standing proposal by comrade Amy
> that we work with a figure of */four (4) delegates/* for each collective
> from the Africa and the global network; that we adopt Ammy's proposal
> and a principle that each collective tries to fundraise for additional
> delegates' travel and accomodation costs in Durban. This might bring
> down the overall budget which we send out to potential funders.
Thanks for commenting on this. Agreeing to one figure is definitely
necessary in order to finalize a budget. So we need to hear what others
think about this. Perhaps it could be a subject of discussion for the
I recall that one concern about limiting the numbers has been raised in
the past -- that it will discourage locals from recruiting more
participation even if it may exist. Perhaps we could decide that if more
delegates than the limit are recruited and proposed by a local indymedia
collective, that the whole group will make efforts to fundraise for all
of them, but will put this second in priority to fundraising to make the
other costs. We could also develop a timeline to make the decision by.
This is a suggestion for discussion.
> Additionally; that we set a cut off date for submission of final
> delegations to attend the IMC-Africa convegence to *July 10th 2011* so
> as to allow for the applications for funding to be sent to as many doors
> as is possible and give ourselves enough time for contingency situations
> (roughly two months).
I agree with this goal! July 10th sounds great.
> Could we request all comrades who have indicated that they will take up
> the task of producing a generic funding proposal for the IMC-Africa
> convergence to please please please try get us a close to final draft
> proposal as we have really run out of time to send this to sponsors.
> Should comrades need support in this regard please indicate this so we
> can all chip in.
Who is it that took this on? I do not recall one person or even two
agreeing to do this, but I might have missed it.
Please note that "Finances" and "Funding proposal" are separate.
"Finances" refers to a portion of a funding proposal, but there is a
need for many other components to a funding proposal.
Perhaps we could discuss the pieces of the funding proposal -- some of them
we probably have almost finished. Here is an effort:
(1) narrative -- this could probably be drawn from molefi's documents,
as well as the writeup that Fabian did on dakar, using the application
from dakar as a guide. has anyone begun this work? i think at least a
team of two people is needed to accomplish this. though perhaps some
psople have already begun it.
(2) media links from the website to jazz up the narrative -- i think dee
dee volunteered to compile some of the best ones on a recent irc chat.
this is probably the most important part in terms of communicating with
donors. i trust dee dee has it squared away but if more help is needed
please let us know.
(3) budget -- as noted above, the decision about delegate numbers needs
to be made as a prerequisite. in addition, information has been sent via
email about how much room and board costs. all this information would
need to be compiled into a spreadsheet. we could use the one from dakar
as a guide (molefi has already begun to modified it i believe). to
finalize finances, I would propose that we set up a googledocs system
and that people volunteer to be on the finance committee get access to
work together on these tasks. what do people think of this proposal? it
would be important for someone from south africa imc to be on that team,
of course. also perhaps emem or someone else from Kebetkache could
because they do a lot of good fundraising themselves. emem what do you
is that all? have i missed anything or are there updates i'm unaware of?
> There has been great responses regarding the Kulture working
> group/committee- in the next few hours i will be forwarding mails to
> this list with beople keen to partake and assist where possible
> especially in bringing Dead prez and other cultural groups down to
> Durban for the event, could we get some indication on how we are
> prgressing on this front.
I think Russell is working on this. I think he has been having trouble
getting on irc.
> Hoping these inputs are taken in the best spirit as they are intended
> and that the encourage responses and discussions from here onwards.
Yes! Your spirit is very much appreciated by me. :)
Could I also suggest some other tasks?
* reach out to uc-imc about fiscal sponsorship and perhaps try to
negotiate a lower fiscal sponsorship rate
* (after above) set up a paypal donation site
* compile a list of potential funders and deadlines where relevant
* re-initiate communications with x-y
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