[imc-scotland-discussion] about hidden comment by Ludd "olympicnazism"

[Anarcho Babe]

I haven't got any particular opinion on this and leave it to the person 
with the strongest feelings and opinions on this topic to hide or not to 
hide.
Am somehow split on it, whilst I don't like to equalise or compare anything 
bad with terms associated with the second world war; as it in my opinion 
deminishes the holocaust / shoah ; I do also accept the argument that the 
olympics were abused by Hitler and its regime to build legitimacy; and that 
this is also a valid point of critisism in the set up of the olympics.

(Dunno if that makes kind of sense?)
ciao Ulla



On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:35:14 +0100 (BST), For Mother Earth Scotland 
<info at scotland.motherearth.org> wrote:

> I agree with what you say, if you add the text in the email to the
> picture, I have no problem what so ever with it reappearing!
>
> But like it is, symply because Hilter was very keen to use the games in
> 1936 doesn't automaticly mean there is a link between nazism and the 
> games
> these days. (Although after reading your comments I now know there is.
> Thanks for that.)
>
> An ornament with both the symbols on it is hardly a proof for a link
> between the two. It makes it seem as a cheap slagging of of the games and
> doing the cause harm I believe.
>
> That is my humble opinion. I do not veto of course! If others agree with
> Meltegez, I do not object.
> I did not see any comments on it. Nor any reference to the link between
> Nazism and the games in the parent article.
>
> Respect!
> Ludd
>
> Let me know what to do, does it have to be me who lifts the "sanction" on
> the picture or can others do that aswell? I am away for a few days to a
> place I can't go online...
>
>
>
>
>
>> Hidden by Ludd with code: Other
>> Notes: doesnt contribute anything
>>
>> http://www.scotland.indymedia.org/editor/index.php?class=Article&function=editor_display&id=667
>>
>> Actually this photo is contributing something that the moden olympics 
>> are
>> trying to hide. I think this is a pocket clock, and such items can still
>> be found in eastern Europe open markets. They were mass produced during
>> the 1936 games in Berlin and they were found among the possesions of
>> captured or killed SS troops all over the Balkans.
>>
>> Modern Olympic Games until 1936 were not much popular and were mostly a
>> cultural event and not so much into athletics. In 1936 National 
>> Socialist
>> Germany of Adolf Hitler made for first time the Olympic Games such a
>> commercial and worldwide known event in order to promote their own 
>> agenda
>> before WW2. Two were the main reasons:
>>
>> 1) Hitler was very keen of ancient Greece and in particular of its most
>> inhuman and authoritarian customs like the Olympic Games. The Nazi
>> propaganda was photographing the so-called arian race as being close by 
>> to
>> the ancient greek musculine perfection...
>>
>> 2) Such a spectacle was the perfect chance for promoting the nazi
>> propaganda and in the same time covering the prosecution and anihilation
>> of handicaped people, political resisters and Jews.
>>
>> Finally the torch parade from ancient Olympia to the place of the games
>> was introduced by the nazi party. This kind of spectacle never ever took
>> place in ancient greece.
>>
>> I propose the image and the comment to reappear.
>>
>> =======================================
>> for more info on 1936 games look here:
>> http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/olympics/zindex.htm
>>
>>
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