[imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening

Thu Sep 28 08:01:44 PDT 2006

On the question of developing the Forum I agree with Mike's comments about 
the need for this to be regular and for us to build common ground.

Here's the webite of the woman, Everline who I had suggested for a future 
event. I'd seen the Forum as having alternate Indymedia / AK / Zapatista 
Solidarity / ACE? collaborations and Everline being perhaps a future speaker 
when its Indymedia's 'turn'.

http://www.evel.nl/

Mike

INDYMEDIA SCOTLAND
http://scotland.indymedia.org

>From: "Mike" <mike77 at macunlimited.net>
>To: <imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org>
>Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:27:13 +0100
>
>I dont think there is any need for folk to fall out about this Ulla, it is
>just a case of us trying together to work out the best venue and time, and
>bouncing ideas back and forward, there is no need for you to take offence.
>
>RE THE TIME/ DATE
>The bookfair finishes at 5pm on sunday, so there is no direct clash, except
>there is a bookfair related concert with Roy Bailey in the evening at the
>bongo club, i suppose ideally it would be better to avoid a clash but i 
>dont
>think there is necessarily a huge overlap in terms of potential audience.
>I think there is nothing wrong with the monday, it was more that in general
>i think sundays are perhaps slightly better, and i think it was envisaged
>having THE FORUM regular discussions on a sunday.
>
>RE THE VENUE
>I am by no means hostile to the Forest as a venue,  in general it is a  
>good
>sympathetic venue (though i think it is debateable whether it can be
>considered a social centre in the sense of a politically committed
>collective).
>However experience has shown there are problems with having events in the
>cafe area at the forest.  It is better than upstairs at the Forest in one
>respect, in being more or less accessible, but the fact that there are
>usually a number of folk there who have not come to see the film but are
>just there for the cafe, can result in noise and distractions.  This is
>worse when it gets to the discussion stage, in my experience it is not at
>all a good space for discussions, with the seating all spread out and the
>noise from the cafe and cappucinistas.  It may be big enough for this 
>event,
>which is being organised at quite short notice, but for events in the
>regular discussion series, which in general we would hope would be well
>publicised well in advance, I think it would be too small - I wouldnt think
>it could take more than about 40-50 people coming for the event, if you
>consider there might already be 10-15 people there anyway.  Whereas I would
>hope the discussion events could usually attract 60-100 people.
>
>Btw, the Quaker meeting house does allow us to serve coffee/tea, if we want
>to.
>
>TWO SHOWINGS?
>On reflection, i am not sure if this really makes sense, bearing in mind 
>the
>short time scale, but we can discuss it at the meeting tonight.
>
>REGULAR DISCUSSIONS/ THE FORUM
>This is really what i think is the most important thing.  Ulla, ACE and
>others have done great work in the past in organising various film 
>showings,
>and also public meetings with different speakers (the argentinian
>piqueteros, lorenzo komboa ervin, dave morris, etc).  However i think many
>of us feel that the impact of  such initiatives would be much greater if
>they were not just isolated one-off events, but part of a series of regular
>discussions, which could build up a profile in the city.  The Forum could
>become known as a regular event where people could go not only to find out
>about the particular topic for that evening, but to find out what is going
>on in terms of grass-roots/ anti authoritarian/ revolutionary/ direct 
>action
>groups and activities.  Groups could have stalls and displays at the 
>events,
>there could be a space for brief announcements of upcoming activities, 
>etc..
>As has been said, something could grow out of such a series, it could
>feedback into and strengthen all the various groups and activities we are
>involved in.  Groups such as the Edinburgh Chiapas Solidarity Group are v
>supportive of the idea and committed to being involved.
>
>The essential thing for such an event is that it is at the same time and at
>the same place every month, and I think there is no doubt that for such an
>event the Quaker meeting house is much more suitable than either upstairs 
>or
>downstairs at the Forest. (there is no reason why people could not go to 
>the
>Forest after if they wanted, it is close by.)
>
>Whatever happens about the i film, personally I feel it is very important 
>to
>get this discussion series off the ground, and hopefully we can discuss 
>that
>tonight.
>
>cheers edinburgh mike
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Small" <product2000 at hotmail.com>
>To: <anarchobabe at fempages.org>; <mike77 at macunlimited.net>;
><imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
>
>
> >
> > that's a shame Ulla - maybe we should go ahead with these two wvents and
> > see which venue works best?
> >
> > <html><div><FONT size=1><STRONG>INDYMEDIA SCOTLAND
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Anarcho Babe" <anarchobabe at fempages.org>
> >>To: "Mike Small" <product2000 at hotmail.com>,
> >>mike77 at macunlimited.net,imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org
> >>Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
> >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:24:10 +0100
> >>
> >>I won't participate in organising the screening at the Quaker Meeting
> >>House, as I fundamentally disagree with that the audience in question
> >>would be different from the Bookfair, and the Quaker Meeting House will 
>be
> >>too far away to be an attractive venue on the sunday to go there after 
>the
> >>bookfair as it has no chilling out nor social potential.
> >>But as you are not paying attention ever to my opinion nor experience 
>feel
> >>free to organise it yourself without me.
> >>
> >>I have booked the Forest Cafe for Monday, 16th of October at 7.30pm and
> >>will be organising the screening there, as it is a nice social centre 
>and
> >>has a nice welcoming vibrant alternative feel and is a bigger space
> >>offering food and drinks as possible,it is accessible as well.
> >>
> >>cheers Ulla
> >>
> >>
> >>On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:55:55 +0100, Mike Small <product2000 at hotmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I agree - lets have it at the Quaker Meeting House
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > INDYMEDIA SCOTLAND
> >> > http://scotland.indymedia.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> From: "Mike" <mike77 at macunlimited.net>
> >> >> To: "imcscotland discussion"
> >> >> <imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
> >> >> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:07:26 +0100
> >> >>
> >> >> personally i think it would be great if the film could be at the
> >> >> quaker
> >> >> meeting house on sunday 15th october as part of the series of 
>planned
> >> >> regular
> >> >> discussion events - The Forum - described by Neil below.
> >> >>
> >> >> The quaker meeting house has an advantage over both the cwu and the
> >> >> forest
> >> >> in being totally accessible to folk with mobility problems (outside
> >>ramp
> >> >> and
> >> >> lift), and has the advantage over the forest upstairs, in being more
> >> >> comfortable.  It is more expensive than the cwu, but my 
>understanding
> >>is
> >> >> that ak are willing to put up the money for booking the quaker 
>meeting
> >> >> house
> >> >> for this series of events.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think normally sunday may be a better day than the monday, in
> >> >> addition i
> >> >> think sunday is the day being thought of for the regular series of
> >> >> discussions.
> >> >>
> >> >> If folk think there would be an additional audience for the forest 
>on
> >> >> monday
> >> >> as well, then by all means go for it, or as ulla suggests the film
> >> >> could go
> >> >> to another city if there was people there wanting to put it on.
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers mike, edinburgh
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "neil gray" <neilgray00 at hotmail.com>
> >> >> To: <imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:26 PM
> >> >> Subject: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i went to the quaker meeting house today for a look. ideal for the 
>i
> >> >> movie
> >> >> > i'd say (blinds for the windows, a pull down screen, 100+ 
>audience,
> >> >> > friendly
> >> >> > staff, very central). in some ways organising the screening at the
> >> >> > bookfair
> >> >> > would be great, if thats possible. we need to find out about this
> >> >> asap,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > from ulla's e-mail it doesn't really look likely as it co-incides
> >>with
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > comedy + song fundraiser. i'd prefer not to be squeezed into a
> >> >> marginal
> >> >> > position on someone else's programme, when we can do a perfectly
> >> >> > good
> >> >> job
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > organising it ourselves - the marginal position seems likely if we
> >> >> > go
> >> >> with
> >> >> > the word power bookfair at this late stage.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > the idea of the CWU is good, but there has been a major expression
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > interest in the quaker meeting house as a regular venue which 
>holds
> >> >> out
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > possibility of a regular city centre event destination, where we 
>can
> >> >> tie
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > a few different groups - ACE, AK press, Indymedia, Edinchiapas - 
>for
> >> >> > monthly
> >> >> > events around specific themes/activities/campaigns etc. the
> >> >> > screening
> >> >> > probably wouldn't take place until 7.00 or 7.30, which gives 
>people
> >> >> plenty
> >> >> > of time to see michael albert, then get up the road for the quaker
> >> >> meeting
> >> >> > house, if they're interested in both events.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > my edinburgh programme thus far - with all the suggestions we've
> >> >> > had,
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > be:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > sunday the 15th october - quaker meeting house. 7.30
> >> >> > monday the 16th october - the forest. 7.30
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i think the big one to build for is the sunday event where we can
> >> >> > get
> >> >> a
> >> >> > really big audience if we push it - and no distractions. the 
>forest
> >>is
> >> >> > quite
> >> >> > close by, but maybe gives us the opportunity to push the film 
>again
> >> >> for
> >> >> > people who didn't see it the first time. on the other hand, as 
>ulla
> >> >> says,
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > could hand it on to someone else e.g 
>aberdeen/newcastle&sunderland.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mike zzzzz has said his friend can do the poster. lets make a
> >>decision
> >> >> > quick!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > cheers, neil
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>From: "Anarcho Babe" <anarchobabe at fempages.org>
> >> >> >>To: "imcscotland discussion"
> >> >> <imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org>
> >> >> >>Subject: [imc-scotland-discussion] ithefilm screening
> >> >> >>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:21:55 +0100
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>have phoned Elaine and sent her an email asking if it would be
> >> >> possible
> >> >> to
> >> >> >>combine screening and bookfair, but it seems the program is 
>already
> >> >> quite
> >> >> >>sorted.
> >> >> >>If not, it might make sense to have the first screening on Sunday
> >> >> evening
> >> >> >>coinciding with their paid comedy + song event, thus providing an
> >> >> >>alternative for people who can't pay the Ã,Â£10/Ã,Â£7/Ã,Â£5 for 
>the
> >>Bookfair
> >> >> >>entertainment?
> >> >> >>Their entertainment starts at 6pm. As Michael Albert from Z
> >> >> >>magazines
> >> >> >>starts at 3.30pm as the last speaker, we shouldn't screen the film
> >> >> before
> >> >> >>5/6 pm anyways.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Then it might make sense to use the CWU if they are still happy 
>with
> >> >> us
> >> >> >>being there, because it is closer to the Out of the Blue event
> >> >> >>space?
> >> >> >>Though the entertainment takes place at the Bongo Club.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>And then have the Forest event the day after on Monday?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Or to ask the Newcastle&Sunderland/Aberdeen people if they want to
> >> >> >>do
> >> >> a
> >> >> >>screening on Sunday?
> >> >> >>cheerio Ulla
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>(we need to have the event space and time soon, so we can get it
> >> >> >>into
> >> >> some
> >> >> >>publications. Also it might make sense to do a new poster - the 
>ones
> >> >> on
> >> >> >>the website are not very expressive or clear in what the content 
>of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >>film is and who would it is aimed at as audience.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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