[imc-scotland-discussion] imc-scotland-discussion Digest, Vol 55, Issue 2

Wed Dec 12 10:31:19 PST 2007

To Ch: what date for a meeting do you suggest, or people generally suggest? 

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Today's Topics:

1. Offer of tech help (mike)
2. Re: fwd: request for removal of comments (Jon)
3. Re: Some wee changes to the site (variantmag at btinternet.com)
4. indymedia scotland has gone down! (Jon)
5. Re: indymedia scotland has gone down! (Jon)
6. Re: meetings (chris)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:49:30 +0000
From: mike 
Subject: [imc-scotland-discussion] Offer of tech help
To: imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org
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Hi scotland imc people,

Mike here from bristol imc. I'd like to offer technical assistance if any
is needed, and to make closer links between our groups as we are so
(relatively) close together. We've been a bit slack on this front up to
now.

I noticed recently that you are running dadaimc which we previously used and
I was instrumental in setting up and configuring it. I also noticed
recently that the support for dada seems to have broken down.

We are currently running oscailt and about to launch an upgraded site
running oscailt3. We like it a lot. If you consider changing CMS then you
might want to look at oscailt and consider joining an effort to support and
improve it with imc bristol and imc ireland. Additional users and tech
would probably help this project a lot. I would also be interested to
experiment with a dadaimc to oscailt conversion script, that might encourage
other imc's to consider this option.

I'm also happy to help fix bugs in your existing setup - do you have a tech
list?

PS - is anyone planning to go the the uk imc meet next week?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:38:15 +0000
From: Jon 
Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] fwd: request for removal of
comments
To: Anarcho Babe 
Cc: ekes at riseup.net, neilgray00 at hotmail.com,
imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org, Mark at embe.co.uk,
info at imcscotland.org, sb at j12.org, slj07 at students.stir.ac.uk,
support at dadaimc.org, raskjsdl2 at sakdjfhsdk.gr, ppaulglax at hotmail.com,
dave at gladsoft.net, dragondynamics2000 at yahoo.co.uk,
leopoldo.lara at zeninformatica.com, ionnek at aktivix.org,
joking9 at hotmail.com, garry.glass at gmail.com, mike77 at macunlimited.net,
chris-h at diskant.net, mike_zzzzzz at yahoo.co.uk
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I agree with you: the comments dont need to be deleted, they are already
hidden due to being voted down.

Jon

Anarcho Babe wrote:
> Hia,
> 
> I wondered what your opinion is on this matter. I know none of the people 
> involved in that dispute. I don't really like removing comments, I would tend 
> to hide them, or prefer to rate them down.
> 
> bye for now 
> Ulla
> 
> 
> 
> ----
> 
> Hi Ulla
> 
> Richard came into irc asking that these comments (disinfo was the term he 
> used) be removed from Scotland.
> 
> He doesn't want to post to any open list cos Danny reads them
> 
> I said I'd pass it on
> 
> cheers
> 
> ftp
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from richard.mckean at zoom.co.uk -----
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:15:02 +0000
> From: richard.mckean at zoom.co.uk
> Reply-To: richard.mckean at zoom.co.uk
> Subject: innacurate and defamatory
> To: freethepeeps at aktivix.org
> 
> More lies from Danny Prior aimed at TP:
> 
> http://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/4457/index.php
> 
> 
> Re: Ayr Sheriff Acquits Seven Prestwick Protesters
> Current rating: 0
> 13 Aug 2007
> by Anonymous Poster
> The Climate Change Camp today said they would not be crossing live runways as
> it is too dangerous to third parties. Previously Trident Ploughshares agreed 
> this could not be defined as Non Violent Direct Action. Have TP abandoned 
> NVDA or just their previous definitions of NVDA ? 
> 
> 
> Re: Ayr Sheriff Acquits Seven Prestwick Protesters
> Current rating: 0
> 13 Aug 2007
> by Anonymous Poster
> They did cross a live runway after having being warned not to and in direct
> contradiction of their groups previous stance towards this issue. Out of
> laziness and vaingloriousness too since they had been shown other routes in
> that didn't risk other peoples lives. 
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:58:21 +0000
From: variantmag at btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] Some wee changes to the site
To: Mike Small 
, Tom Morton
, imcscotland discussion
, Anarcho Babe

Cc: Bob 
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Hi there,

For some reason I'm still on this e-list, so apologies for dropping in.

if you get copies to the national library, anyone in any library 
anywhere in UK can request and get a copy... something I would have 
thought was worth supporting.

With links, think a useful pointer could be in making a distinction 
between hierachical and horizontal types of orgs, with a v. short 
introductory statement making that clear.

Bob at City Strolls is talking about a get 
together for/with/about Inymedia projects in Scotland at the January 
Reshuffle he's planning -- see Bob for details.

All best,
Leigh

On 28 Nov 2007, at 15:57, Mike wrote:

> Who chooses what's 'radical'. I think we shoud be inclusive and link 
> to everything unless its (obviously) unacceptable.
> ?
> Or put it another way and link to al progressive campaigns.
> ?
> Mike
>
>   INDYMEDIA SCOTLAND 
> 
http://scotland.indymedia.org

>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:49:29 +0000
> > From: tom at infoseed.co.uk
> > To: imc-scotland-discussion at lists.indymedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] Some wee changes to the site
> >
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> > Mike wrote:
> > > I agree with all aboutthe Notices being very in your face.
> >
> > There is a links module where they can appear down the left/righthand
> > side, but when enabled it complains about a missing file. We can
> > probably fix this when we get server access again. It would be better
> > than using the big red razorwire thing.
> >
> > > Surely we should be linking to campaigns like Edinburgh Chiapas 
> though, isnt that what we're all about?
> >
> > Yeah. do we have a policy about which campaigns get links? What i 
> think
> > we should do is:
> >
> > either:
> >
> > get rid of all links to campaigns and have only links to 'radical'
> > places, like ACE and... and ACE and other places
> >
> > or:
> >
> > link to pretty much every campaign going on. we could quickly decide
> > which at meetings, and regularly revise this list
> >
> > - --
> > Tom
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:41:09 +0000
From: Jon 
Subject: [imc-scotland-discussion] indymedia scotland has gone down!
To: imcscotland discussion

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hey all,

does anyone know whats up with indymedia-scotland? and how we get people
to fix it?

Jon
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:42:21 +0000
From: Jon 
Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] indymedia scotland has gone
down!
To: imcscotland discussion

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it was down briefly, but it seems to be ok now.

Jon

Jon wrote:
> hey all,
> 
> does anyone know whats up with indymedia-scotland? and how we get people
> to fix it?
> 
> Jon
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:52:13 +0000
From: chris 
Subject: Re: [imc-scotland-discussion] meetings
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Meetings. I think one is overdue, more so me being at one. I am in
Edinburgh over xmas so would like to meet folk for a bit chat.

There's a chance to do a workshop in Glasgow at the Reshuffle event. I
can contribute to it but not sure what to do on my own.

My technical skills are improving slowly but from a very low base and
low knowledge of the existing systems. Seems there's 3 options though:
* keep on with DadaIMC
* join the Drupal IMC process
* join Ireland & Bristol with Oscait

Discussions like these can be hellish, though. I suggest that we need to
think hard and come up with a list of reuirements, improvements, wishes
etc. Everything that we want our IMC 2.0 ;) to do. I've started one but
don't have time to type it up this evening.

I also think that site users (casual and potential) need to be involved
in this. I'm thinking of sending out a survey (nauseating as that may
seem) to find out what folk want, what falls short and what confuses
them about the current set-up.

I'd welcome input from others on that, even if it's just in the form of
"did you get any responses back?"

Enough typing for now.

ch.

Jon wrote:
> about the website though - i understood that there is noone who
> maintains or improves the dada-mc software that we use, and currently
> noone who maintains our website, (apart from tom i think)
> 
> Tom is learning drupal so he can create a swanky new site: i have seen
> some of it, and it is looking very nice. for example a more
> 'word-processor' style posting is possible. Also i remember that tom
> said there wasnt a single imc software being developed, but lots of
> different ones.
> 
> would be nice to have a meeting in january to discuss this sort of
> stuff! even one on IRC would be adequate, but real-life would be nicer,
> and in a pub would be IMO the best :)
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> Anarcho Babe wrote
>>> I don't think we should build a new system from scratch, it would make us too 
>>> dependent on one person. Most efforts of other indymedia techies are going at 
>>> the moment into customizing Drupal for Indymedia websites.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should have a meeting soon, but I am not enthusiastic at the moment 
>>> to call for one or for organising it. If anybody else is, I would try my best 
>>> to attend though, but I would like to avoid sitting there all alone as I 
>>> think I did for pretty frequently in aeh - was it 2004?

- --
chris h

Lost 6 weeks of emails dated from June to mid July.
- --> If it was important, resend it :)

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