[imc-scotland-discussion] Minutes from Glasgow meeting 28/10/08

[Ben]

Hi Jon,

"*free-sheet*
Regarding the glasgow specific news-sheet, i think its a good idea, but
do we have enough articles at the moment to fill two seperate newsheets?
We often struggle to fill one newspaper!"

I totally agree that it may be hard to do this but we'll see how it goes...

"*translation*
I think translating the whole site into different languages would not be
worth the effort at the moment. No-one posts articles in Gaelic or any
language other than English at the moment. Also, I don't think it would
increase our readership at all if we did translate into Gaelic. But if
Gaelic speakers want to post articles in Gaelic, or make translations of
 articles already posted, that can already be done. I think we should
prioritise other things, like the paper etc. and getting more ppl to use
the site."

There is the occasional Oi polloi gig posted in Gaelic :)  I'm
wholeheartedly happy to take this task of setting this up alone, it is
essentially very simple to do.  I've only so far come accross one bug
getting in the way on the current site but once this is resolved it is
generally straight forward to do this with Drupal. If anything, making
the site more multi-lingual in my mind does encourage more
participation and also helps edge us away from the site appearing to
be just central scotland minded.  It's a chicken and the egg thing,
don't know which should come first.  Perhaps we should let Gaelic
speakers decide on this and wait for what Davey says or anyone else
who wants to help with this.

"*meetings*
I Think it is a good idea to have meetings in glasgow, however I dont
think it is a good idea to have meetings in both cities at the same
time. Each group could make different decisions on the same topic on the
same evening, how would that be resolved? I think glasgow could have
meetings on glasgow specific issues (like distro, glasgow paper etc.),
but other issues need a scotland meeting, either in edinburgh or glasgow."

Don't necessarily think this is that big a problem,
All we need to do is compare minutes via the mailing list afterwards
and when making decisions that effect the other group(s) bear in mind
that the other group will need to have a say,
There is also the possibility of having a video link up between
locations which will also encourage participation further afield,

I suggested at the meeting that If the Edinburgh group had different
ideas about the proposed meeting schedule that they then be invited to
come along to the next Glasgow meeting on the 25th of November,

That sound like a plan?

Ben

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Jon <thelandisours at riseup.net> wrote:
> Hi Everyone!
>
> The glasgow meeting sounds like a success!
>
> Some discussion on the decisions made at the meeting:
>
> *free-sheet*
> Regarding the glasgow specific news-sheet, i think its a good idea, but
> do we have enough articles at the moment to fill two seperate newsheets?
> We often struggle to fill one newspaper!
>
> *translation*
> I think translating the whole site into different languages would not be
> worth the effort at the moment. No-one posts articles in Gaelic or any
> language other than English at the moment. Also, I don't think it would
> increase our readership at all if we did translate into Gaelic. But if
> Gaelic speakers want to post articles in Gaelic, or make translations of
>  articles already posted, that can already be done. I think we should
> prioritise other things, like the paper etc. and getting more ppl to use
> the site.
>
> *meetings*
> I Think it is a good idea to have meetings in glasgow, however I dont
> think it is a good idea to have meetings in both cities at the same
> time. Each group could make different decisions on the same topic on the
> same evening, how would that be resolved? I think glasgow could have
> meetings on glasgow specific issues (like distro, glasgow paper etc.),
> but other issues need a scotland meeting, either in edinburgh or glasgow.
>
> Its really groovy glasgow has got a group together :)
>
> Solidarity,
>
> Jon
>
>
> Ben wrote:
>> Anything I missed in these minutes let me know...
>>
>> NEXT MEETING IN GLASGOW
>>
>> 7.30pm, 25th November at the Electron Club
>>
>>
>> MINUTES FROM GLASGOW MEETING 28/10/08
>>
>> Present: Chris, Ben, John C, Euan, Stephen, Leigh (arrived later)
>>
>>
>> - Agenda
>>
>> 1. Increasing Glasgow Coverage
>> 2. Freesheet Printing
>>
>> After the agenda was put together Ben then proposed that meeting take
>> a more casual than formal nature and so a more open discussion then
>> took place
>>
>>
>> - Translation
>>
>> Ben mentions an idea of translating site in Gaelic
>>
>> Stephen mentions a friend Danny who could do this and will contact him
>> about this
>>
>> It was also mentioned that money could be got from Scottish Arts
>> Council for this kind of thing
>>
>>
>> - Publicity
>>
>> John C says that an important part of the website is publicizing it
>>
>> Ben talks about the Newssheet and the idea that is supposed to try and
>> help publicize the site more
>>
>>
>> - Newsheet
>>
>> John C would like to see a more Glasgow specific version of the
>> current sheet printed in Glasgow
>> It was agreed that for the November issue Glasgow would print the
>> current Scotland-wide sheet
>> And then for the December issue John C was willing to put together a
>> Glasgow specific newssheet
>>
>>
>> - Printing Newssheet
>>
>> Newssheet agreed to be printed at Clydeside Press
>>
>> Stephen to phone Tommy about getting a quote to print 1000/2000
>>
>> John Couzin says he will be able to take 750 to distro
>>
>> Chris says he knows about 5 or 6 groups of people he could maybe get
>> to distribute
>>
>>
>> - Distribution Network
>>
>> There was a lot of talk about setting up a distribution network
>> linking up other similar groups that distribute newssheets/flyers in
>> Glasgow such as the Burgh Angel, Anarchist Critic, Variant, Resistance
>> (AF), RIB
>>
>> Chris is going to look into creating an onilne map for distro addresses
>> Ben is going to look into creating an online database
>>
>> A lot of potential on this project but agreed this is probably a
>> separate subject that should probably be discussed seperately at
>> another time
>>
>>
>> - End of October
>>
>> Ben will send PDF to Stephen to print at Tommys
>>
>> Stephen will distro South West and contact other to distro in Queen's Park area
>>
>> John C will distro 750
>>
>> Chris will send an email oout on Glasgow Anarchists list looking for
>> people to distro
>>
>> other locations mentioned
>> - STUC centre
>> - Mono
>> - libraries
>> - bus station
>> - train station
>> - list of venues that Variant distro to
>>
>>
>> - STUC Anti-Racist march 29th November 08
>>
>> It was agreed that it would be a good idea to round up people to
>> distro newssheets at the STUC anti-racist March on St Andrew's Day
>>
>> The next meeting in Glasgow would be a good date to prepare for this
>>
>>
>> - Proposed schedule by Glasgow IMC for up coming meetings
>>
>> November 25th - meeting held in both Glasgow and Edinburgh
>> December (possibly 16h? tbc at November meeting) - meeting held in
>> both Glasgow and Edinburgh
>> January 27th - joint rotated meeting in either Glasgow or Edinburgh
>>
>> Meetings then to continue rotating as above, 2 monthly meetings
>> separate then 1 joint
>>
>> Reasoning behind this is that a localised Glasgow meeting was deemed
>> to be needed to...
>>
>> a) work on a localised version of the Indymedia Newsheet
>>
>> b) and for other localised discussion such as distro and assigning
>> people to cover events etc.
>>
>> ... but it was also important for both groups to meet up
>>
>> - Text was received at the end of the meeting from Andy who suggested two things
>>
>> 1. That the Newswire be added to the Google News list
>>
>> 2. Something about broadening the range of content
>>
>>
>> ACTION POINTS
>>
>> Chris
>> - Poking people about distribution in Glasgow
>> - Organising distro at STUC Anti-racist march
>> - Give admin powers to Ben
>> - Look into mapping for distro list
>>
>> Stephen
>> - Phone Tommy to about printing 1000/2000 newssheets
>> - to get onto the list serve
>> - Contact various people about adding articles to the website
>> - to contact Danny about translating site in Gaelic
>> - Distro in South area of Glasgow
>>
>> Ben
>> - make sure PDF gets sent to Stephen
>> - Look into the funding situation for printing the newssheets
>> - Propose meeting schedule to Edinburgh lot
>> - Look into Delivery Address database stuff
>> - Get a template of the current newssheet to send to John C
>>
>> John C
>>
>> - Put together the Glasgow specific newssheet for December
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OTHER POINTS OF INTEREST POST-MEETING
>>
>> Leigh suggested in the pub possibly having the Glasgow meetings at the
>> same time as the Subversives social
>>
>> I spoke to Nick after the meeting, he would like to see 5000 printed
>> in Glasgow, and reckons Tommy would do them for free
>> I told him to get in contact with Stephen about arranging this
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