[IMC-Seattle] Re: [Seattletech] Re: Clarification of 'Stop web
matt at lackof.org
Thu Nov 18 00:47:53 PST 2004
Laury Kenton writes...
> Sorry to be hounding you on this issue, but your response still isn't makin=
> g sense to me. If you aren't a "big fan of the proposal", why are you prop=
> osing it? It seems to me that if "10 activists" have been talking about th=
> e topic, they should step out of the shadows,
I was one of the people present at the conversation where this was discussed.
In addition to what brandon already said here are some more comments.
Any new collective needs to deal with the unsustainable tech situation,
stefani is (and has been for a while now) the only person maintaining the
server. There are problems with mir that haven't been fixed and there's no way
to deal with the trolls. Other tech people are unwilling to join due to the
flamewars (laury and joseph in particular, regardless of who was "right"), the
financial baggage, and other problems. It was proposed that keeping the site
limping along was only acting a crutch and preventing the collective from
addressing the situation, while further burning out the remaining tech people
(stefani/brandon). As you suggest the people that are "do-ers" should be the
ones making the decisions and not the "talkers". If they don't want to
continue in this unsustainable situation then that's their decision. No one
"owns" seattle.indymedia.org, but they do own their personal contribution and
can retract it if they want. The proposal was to stop open publishing and
leave the servers only as an archive until such time as the new collective
goes through the new IMC process and has the tech resources to setup a proper
sustainable site that can take over the archives.
I think this proposal is born out of desparation, if you have a better idea
that addresses the above issues I'm sure people would support it.
Signed, a "talker" who's been lurking for the past 18 months waiting to be a
matt at lackof.org
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