[imc-sf-active] static sites with smarty

[Pseudo Punk]

johnk at riceball.com <johnk at riceball.com> wrote:
> I'm really out of the loop on sfa dev, but, on LA, there's a 
> semi-workable system to manage a page cache.
> 
> It's an old sf-a site, so news pages are generated PHP files.

what version ?

> 
> If a page is missing, then we load a custom 404 Error page.  This page 
> is a php page that looks at the URI, and generates the correct page.  
> Then, the user is redirected to the newly generated page.  The process 
> is transparent.

i guess this will make it hard to mirror. if a page is missing it will be
on the mirror who can't reproduce it since the mirrors don't know anything
about the dbase

> 
> To update the site, you just delete all the generated files.  This will 
> trigger a 404 error for each page, which triggers page regeneration.
> 
> The main problem with this are web spiders -- they tend to bog down the 
> server, causing the system to hang.  A solution to this would be to 
> monitor the system load, and refuse to generate pages for web spiders 
> when the load is high.  This is only an issue for large sites.

or for sites on quite overloaded servers. sounds like it would be an issue
for all the sites on our shared servers (ahimsa*, stray, staughton,
dissent).

> 
> Back to the PHP files.  These generated files have "include()s" all over 
> them.  I don't think this is a problem. If it's important to put the 
> include files into some kind of CMS, then, I would suggest just dumping 
> the content into files, and include()ing them... though I suspect this 
> wouldn't gain you very much.  It would probably be better to load all 
> the templates into variables, and then print (or evaluate and print) 
> them during page generation.

static pages would be made out of parsed templated files usually ...
Bart


> 
> 
> Pseudo Punk wrote:
> 
> >gekked at blackflag.net <gekked at blackflag.net> wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Hey all, please take a look at:
> >>http://sfa.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/70.php
> >>
> >>I wrote up a summary of sf-active concepts so we can have a
> >>grounding in what we're talking about towards a 1.0 release.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >nice.
> > 
> >
> >
> >[...]
> > 
> >
> >>>sitename/static
> >>>   - we create per language (and if it's configured also $lang.'mix'
> >>>     directories were static sites go. 
> >>>   - mix is for presentation of a site in language $x but with content
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>This part I'm not sure about. It would be nice to have includes and other
> >>filesystem-dependent stuff become obsolete (which is doable with 
> >>Page-Based
> >>Editing). But, I don't really understand it and haven't looked too much 
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >i doubt this will work. the left column is mostly the same on all pages.
> >so we can easily include it. if we don't include it, if you change it
> >you'll have to regenerate everything. i guess for larger sites that will
> >kill us. or did i misunderstand you ? (besides, mir uses includes as 
> >well.).
> >
> >also, includes, templates could go into the dbase it shouldn't be too
> >hard to get them in there.
> >
> > 
> >
> >>at the new code. Ultimately, we do need some master script which could be
> >>called the Producer that you can basically run and have it generate an 
> >>entire site based on what it finds in the database. With the SF admin 
> >>code, we're just about there with doing that. It works fundamentally just
> >>like Mir, except their page definitions are accessible via XML and our
> >>page definitions are accessible through SQL.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >i so far used array's. but it's far from ready. > 
> > 
> >
> >[...]
> > 
> >
> >>This part I agree with and I included it in the Overview document I wrote.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >one thing. why would replicated servers recache their articles if we could
> >just rsync them to there as well ? 
> >Bart
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >>-gek
> >>
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> 
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