[imc-sheffield] Craig Mason threads

[r7]

if you reply to this from [imc-uk-moderation] please cc me as i'm not on 
that list.

i wrote:

> [edited out]: keep a civil tongue man *and* you know better than to send me
> private email on such matters -- you know i ain't gonna reply. i am not
> going to reiterate numerous other discussions we've had on the way indy
> works.

i have resent with your name edited out and apologized. doesn't seem 
it's important enough for you to do for yourself.

worldwarfree wrote:

> so why fucking reply to craig mason bullshit, as it happens i agree with
> the hideing, but not the reon ftp did hide on the grounds they suspected
> this was me, it is indeed diretribe agreed.. but to hide due to fact they
> thought it was me is censership, so now we trust an admited fash to a
> person you lot have issues with is well crass..

> r7 i replyed with info that i thought you might need, this info is well
> known within a group of people, so now some mebers of the working class
> are to sit back and lets others fight the rise of the far right, due to
> fact you lot can trust myself..

you are *well* aware of the existence of the [imc-sheffield-contact] 
list. *if* you have information of a confidential nature to be passed on 
to indymedia about a story, there [or [uk-contact] if relevant] is the 
correct forum for it.

have you even read my post to [sheffield]? i don't know if mason has had 
a conversion. if yes: that's a good thing. he *might* write something 
decent. the ball is in *his* court now and we'll react to what he does. 
if he hasn't he's not likely to write an anti-fascist piece is he? in 
which case things will stay the same. please notice that i am against 
removing his picture, even if he's had a conversion. it is the very fact 
that i *don't* trust him that made me reply in this way. so to say we 
trust him versus you is to completely misunderstand. you posting while 
pretending to be a spokesperson for a non-existent group doesn't help 
you, levels of trust with you or the discussion about mason.

> just shows where imc in the uk has gone, it has become a propaganda tool
> for them. as said to ftp and ill open it up here i have a grate deal of
> info on them in Sheffield and more than willing to share it..

i happen to think that sharing that information in an unthought out, 
scattergun way on the newswire pretending to be a non-existent group is 
*not* the best tactic. to then personally abuse those who disagree with 
your *tactic* [note not end point of fighting fascists] is also not the 
best tactic. indymedia is a propaganda tool for the bnp? right, sure. we 
now return the real world...

> work out how the fuck the info on red watch come about, well here is not
> the place, and neither it seems in private..

you know the channels and how to use them, if you can't remember check 
your email archive from the time you 'busted' me on the newswire for 
something done by someone else. quite frankly i'm bored with having to 
go through this stuff with you.

> keep up the good work of being sec train, as Trotsky said, ill work with
> the devil and my grandmother to defeat this vile assault on my class.

sec train? i don't understand what you're saying here at all.

> that means ill work imc and others as well..
> 
> can r7 stop using my name on open list it compromises my security as well
> they know, and who knows there reasons for there actions, i could come to
> many conclusions and i hope i would be wrong, but reading what i have read
> i doubt it ver much..

see above. if you don't want your name on lists and the newswire, *stop* 
posting it yourself [there are at least a dozen posts on sheffield's 
newswire posted under your real name].

anyone fancy commenting on my reply to mason instead of wasting time on 
this puerile nonsense? anyone got information to share in a rational, 
non-abusive manner about mason's conversion or otherwise?

r7
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r7 [at] aktivix [dot] org

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