[IMC-Tech] [IMC-Video] cloning youtube?
mark at indymedia.org
Thu Jul 5 16:41:08 PDT 2007
Hi, we're on these lists because we're working on replacing corporate
media sites, capitalism as a whole, etc. what is apparently working
for you individually isn't going to help an indymedia site or the
network as a whole, which has criteria of membership about not making
money, engaging in commercial enterprise, relying on proprietary
one thing I was thinking, since you can already use free software to
play flv files, in the form of various media player browser plugins
(totem, VLC, kmplayer etc.):
URL and it detects flash and embeds the flash player, or if not
found, embeds the flv in some other browser plugin.. finally if no
this means the free video players are supported, and at the same time
the 1000x more people who have flash can watch the video..
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:36:45 -0400, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> 2 thoughts.....
> yea you-tube is mainstream but.... why not put stuff up there also?
> Yikes! IT IS FREE!
> I would still keep your own system online also, but by using 'their' system
> you have exposed people to your material that may never have found you.....
> The reason I know about you guys is we are a communications museum that
> studies communication and you are part of that.... but If I was 'Joe
> businessman' and his family I would be in using you tube and would not get to see
> anything you do because you are not in my "presented to me" videosphere!
> You need some capitalism ..... it is really not as bad when used in
> moderation as you might think.... and
> remember the WALL came down.... the other system just really does not work
> in the long term because it is not a pure application of it nor will humans
> allow a pure application of it.... so... lets go out and make some money...
> make some movies... and do our best everyday to make things better overall.
> n a message dated 7/5/2007 3:05:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> rafael at riseup.net writes:
> hi all,
> > >> primary target is to share and communicate information/news, not to
> > >> smash adobe and microsoft, that can be left for a second step.
> > >
> > > But if that second step isn't done soon enough and Adobe have all the
> > > Sklyarov's locked up, Microsoft have all the computers locked down,
> > > IBM have exported all the hardware jobs and Novell signs deals with
> > > them all, how are you going to share and communicate then?
> > Yes, we MUST fight on every front, however, we're late. Youtube is
> > working and popular, we need to start something soon and then keep on
> > improving and moving towards the most free idea. That's how the Linux
> > kernel was done: it started as a crappy thing and kept on growing. The
> > FSF approach's mach-micro-kernel is still unstable, 20 years later.
> I don't want to be youtube.
> youtube is the way capitalism turns free ideias into products.
> imho, indymedia do not pretend to be the most advanced cms site, but yes
> smaller voices speak.
> > Then, putting a bit of history:
> > - IBM has released loads of patents for Linux and has contributed with
> > millions of lines of code to the Kernel, RAID, and paid big amount of
> > coders to improve FLOSS.
> yes, and now linux do not run well anymore in my 486, and almost nobody
> cinelerra in about 10 years.
> but in S/390, oh yes....
> > - Novell bought SuSE and Ximian. You can bet nobody did so much for the
> > FLOSS desktops than they.
> and what?
> they are companies that wants money, that is the way capitalism take over
> ideias into the 'system' (to make money).
> > For me, Adobe and MS are another song ;)
> and don't want companies exist et all.
> rafael diniz
> > >> In fact, most video activists aren't using Kino/Cinelerra for video
> > >> edition, most use Adobe's or Apple's software, so, God damned! what
> > >> we're talking about? [...]
> > >
> > > Yes, that's another problem, but existance of other problems should
> > > not make us discourage people from working on any problem they choose,
> > > as long as we agree it is a problem that needs solving. If you attack
> > > someone for not agreeing with your priority, you usually lose someone
> > > working on a problem - it's very rare that you'll convince them to
> > > work on your priority problem instead. I've learnt this the hard way.
> > Sure, the ship is sinking and you only have two hands, what's first?
> > switching the pcs from windows to linux or patching the holes on the boat?
> > I already know your answer :P
> > Regards,
> Eng. da Computa??o @ Unicamp
> R?dio Muda, radiolivre.org, TV Piolho, tvlivre.org, www.midiaindependente.org
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