[IMC-Tech] [imc-irl] embedded youtube videos should not be used on imc??

[garcondumonde]

hello,

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Fun Peace <fuspey at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I feel this is for a wider dialogue with the imc-ie collective:
>> GDM wrote:
>>  "embedded youtube videos should not be used - this allows logging of
>> IPs
>> of all visitors to the (indymedia) page by youtube, which indymedia
>> should
>> not do."
>> im not sure what was, is the imc-ie view on this?
>> this discussion arises from a imc-org feature proposal for article
>> presently on imc-ie, including embedded vids via youtube
>>
>> perhaps others might offer light
>> regards, dunk
>
>
> I think this horse left the barn a long time ago - the issue is moot,
> IMHO.
>
> Indymedias have to stop thinking that the state's internet surveillance is
> as unsophisticated as ten years ago.  It is safe to assume that every bit
> and byte that flows from and to indymedia.ie is monitored in some way.

perhaps that is a good reason for people to *not* use indymedia ireland then?

really, in all seriousness, do you really think that?? the uk imc (not
very far from ireland, and operating under similar laws) recently had a
server seized for exactly the reason that the state was trying to trace
someone - and was otherwise unable to. for full information, please look
at the website: https://www.indymedia.org.uk for further info. in
particular, i would point you to the second or third feature article which
specifically addresses the question "how do you know that indymedia uk
does not keep logs?" and also at the various links from that article. you
might also like to search through the archives of the imc-tech list which
has had - if not this - very similar discussions in the past about
ip-logging, embedding of other sites within articles (rather than just
links - and, perhaps i misunderstand what ireland is actually doing here),
use of alternative media players to achieve youtube-type functionality,
etc.

solidarity,

       --gdm