[Imc-uk-features] [G8SouthEast]

[mp]

hi,

hmm... yes.. the balance between indymedia as a political platform and
as a media experiment..
.............. hmm... no idea how this happened - and likewise was quite
surprised to see Indymedia (no further explanations/references given) as
a "team" in a "(Have I got) Schnews (for you)" contribution to the
recent TRAPESE Cabar8 in the Bongo Club, Edinburgh ... while it is great
that Indymedia gets some exposure and, well, advertising, it is
problematic if some people just assume that they can use the name and
goodwill of Indymedia without consulting the rest of the network - or at
least notifying lists like these - ... this does not have to do with
intentions alone - it has to do with an open, accountable way of
organising horisontally ...

so, agree with tony - thinking that there needs to be a careful balance
between indymedia as an experiment in open publishing and indymedia as
an overt political platform ...

-mp


On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 11:32 +0100, Tony wrote:
> Does anyone know the people behind this - or how 
> indymedia got to be listed as a co-sponsor?
> As i think it should be challenged. I have not 
> read the links but am sure we should not be seen 
> as promoting this - fine if they want to have 
> their march and we can report it if people wnat 
> but we should not be co-sponsors of marches!
> 
> cheers tony
> 
> At 11:07 +0100 17/7/05, List moderator wrote:
> >Hi all
> >
> >Just thought I should forward this, seen on the 
> >:g8southeast at lists.riseup.net (Date: Sat, 16 Jul 
> >2005 13:22:49 -0700 ) as indymedia is cited as 
> >supporting this march (see para 3)
> >
> >Should someone respond to this?
> >
> >mini mouse
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >CONTENTS
> >1       9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT GROUPS FORMING - PLEASE HELP
> >2       LONDON BOMBINGS
> >3       MARCH IN EAST LONDON 30TH OR 31ST JULY
> >4       TWO LONDON EVENTS
> >5       ATTITUDES TO BOMBINGS
> >6       WEBSITES WITH INFORMATION ON LONDON BOMBINGS
> >7       SPECIAL DISCUSSION ON LONDON BOMBINGS TUESDAY AFTERNOON
> >8       G8 AND ASSOCIATED EVENTS IN SCOTLAND
> >7       BLACKPOOL MAILS ALL JOURNALISTS
> >
> >Dear Friends
> >
> >1       9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT GROUPS FORMING - PLEASE HELP
> >Nine eleven truth movement groups are now forming in many parts of
> >Britain, and in Ireland.  But we don’t know where many of you live, so
> >we can’t put you in touch with other local supporters.  If you would
> >tell us your location and ask if there are others in your area, we will
> >try to put people in touch with each other.  You may not want to give us
> >your address or phone number, but the town or region would be helpful.
> >
> >
> >2       LONDON BOMBINGS
> >The London bombings have raised great concern in the 9/11 Truth
> >Movement.  The overwhelming impression I get from the London group and
> >others around the country is that we should express condolences to the
> >victims of the bombings and their families and solidarity with the
> >Muslim community.
> >
> >3       MARCH IN EAST LONDON 30TH OR 31ST JULY
> >To that end we are co-sponsoring a march in east London, probably
> >starting from the East London Mosque, on either Saturday July 30th or
> >Sunday 31st July.   Other co-sponsors who have already lined up are:
> >
> >The Muslim Council of Britain, Justice not Vengeance, Peace not War,
> >Creative Forum, Global Vision 2000, Mecca to Medina, Barter Card,
> >Indymedia and George Galloway MP.  There will be a platform speaker at
> >the rally from each of the sponsors including the 9/11 Truth Movement.
> >David Shayler has agreed to speak on our behalf.
> >
> >If you know of any other organisations who are interested in becoming
> >co-sponsors, please get in touch with us.
> >
> >4       TWO LONDON EVENTS
> >6pm Thursday 14th July
> >Vigil for those who died in the London bombs
> >Camberwell Green
> >
> >2pm Sunday 17th July
> >Solidarity Gathering
> >Russell Square WC2
> >
> >
> >5       ATTITUDES TO BOMBINGS
> >Other attitudes expressed are that we should not jump to any conclusions
> >as to who dunnit or how it was done but collate the evidence,
> >particularly the evidence which doesn’t fit the official story.
> >Generally, among our supporters the official story that it was all
> >carried out by four suicidal fanatics from Leeds is not believed.
> >Evidence from those who knew the lads concerned suggests they were
> >anything but suicidal or fanatical.  It is a tragedy for their families
> >and communities.
> >
> >If any readers have any further information on the London bombings or
> >the people accused, please send it to this e-mail address.
> >
> >Friends in the States have told us they look to us to take the lead in
> >investigating the London bombings.  We are in a position to do some
> >original research.
> >
> >
> >
> >6       WEBSITES WITH INFORMATION ON LONDON BOMBINGS
> >You may want to do your own research.  We list websites below where
> >relevant information can be found, but we neither vouch for the
> >authenticity of this information, nor do we endorse the websites.
> >
> >http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid%3D15742951%26method%3Dfull%26siteid%3D94762%26headline%3Dwas%2dit%2dsuicide%2d%2d-name_page.html
> >
> >http://www.davidicke.com/icke/headlines.php
> >
> >http://www.rense.com/
> >
> >http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=87167;title=APFN
> >
> >http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/london/index.htm
> >
> >http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.366.20
> >
> >http://www.propagandamatrix.com/
> >
> >
> >Two of our supporters are setting up a new website to deal with the
> >London bombings issue: julyseventh.co.uk.  There should be information
> >on it towards the end of the coming week.
> >
> >
> >7       SPECIAL DISCUSSION ON LONDON BOMBINGS TUESDAY AFTERNOON
> >At Nick Kollerstrom’s initiative there will be a discussion about the
> >London bombings at 3pm on the afternoon of  Tuesday 19th July in the
> >fourth floor tea room of Harrods Store, (claims to be in Knightsbridge
> >but is actually in Brompton Road).  This will be an informal meeting
> >over tea.
> >
> >
> >8       G8 AND ASSOCIATED EVENTS IN SCOTLAND
> >9/11 truth campaigners were busy in Scotland prior to and during the G8
> >Summit at Gleneagles.  The 9/11 truth team between them managed to get
> >to most of the events going on:  the Make Poverty History March in
> >Edinburgh, the Alternative Summit in Edinburgh, the Faslane nuclear
> >submarine base blockade, a workshop on 9/11 in Edinburgh University
> >Union, the Stirling Convergence Centre, the march on Gleneagles from
> >Auchterader (where the locals were so welcoming) and the Live 8 concert
> >in Edinburgh.  Thousands of our DVDs and leaflets were distributed at
> >all these events.  Hearty thanks to all who participated.  It was a
> >great team effort.
> >
> >On the way south I delivered leaflets and DVDs to activists in Dumfries,
> >Cumbria, Blackpool and Stoke on Trent.  Other members of the team took
> >them to Yorkshire, the West Midlands, Oxford, London and the south of
> >Ireland.
> >
> >
> >7       BLACKPOOL MAILS ALL JOURNALISTS
> >The Blackpool 9/11 group report they have now mailed all journalists in
> >the UK (a number approaching 2000) with a letter and a DVD.
> >Congratulations to them on this initiative.  They are also reported to
> >have been showing a DVD to hundreds of soldiers.
> >
> >
> >Despite (or perhaps because of) the terrible news of the London
> >bombings, this movement is now growing fast and it gives me hope.  We
> >should not however forget the victims and their loved ones, particularly
> >the families of the young men who have been accused of this wicked deed.
> >
> >Best wishes to all and thanks for all your hard work and encouragement
> >in getting the truth out there.
> >
> >Noel
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> >   london911truth at fastmail.fm
> >
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